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pantablo · 08-21-2009, 02:09 AM

Katan approached me a while back about doing a build using the new beowulf axles for the cc-01/xc chassis that he designed for RC4WD. Beautiful axles. Frankly, I have way too much on my plate with the builds I have going on right now, and with work really kicking my arse I have no business taking this on...I mean, I haven't had any real time to do serious building OR hit the rocks and make videos! THATS bad, lol.
...But I couldnt resist the challenge of trying to make this work in an easy way so here we are.

See the front Beowulf cc-01/xc axle here: http://www.rc4wdstore.com/2/product_...roducts_id=801

Front and rear axles, axial trans for tcase, cc-01 chassis (currently on swb but will be run lwb).

remove front axle assembly

remove diff and gear that drives the diff, then cut away the area that held the diff.

I'm not sure exactly how much I'll need to cut away in the end but started with the front axle diff area. Pulled the front axles and related gears. Whats left is the spur, that drives the lower gear driving the rear axle.

leaving the front block for now in case I need it for leafs.

ended up getting a Cold Case transfer case, my favorite (particularly good in this case due to size). will be easier to work with than the axial.

measure about 2-3/4" clear at the rails

they'll likely tuck...

In terms of body I'm not 100% sure what I'll run. Plan A is to finish the sequoia and run it on this. The sequoia plan was always a cc-01 and doing a SAS on a Sequoia seems appropriate, lol.
Plan B would be a defender 90 hardbody with the top cut off completely, windshield to back of body.

I'm using an old cc-01 chassis I have and I'll replace parts its missing as I need. I'll be using stock MRC shocks (same length as pajero shocks but narrower, because I have them). May eventually go with 90mm dual rate shocks. I suspect I'll have the travel capability for those.

WHY do a SAS? why not?
More as I can get to it...

pardonmyn00b · 08-21-2009, 05:27 AM

Excellent

JOOTZ · 08-21-2009, 08:46 AM

very interesting build.

FuriousCal · 08-21-2009, 10:45 AM

Been waiting to see a build-up on a SAS for while. Seems like there are a few SASed rigs floating around the site but no build-up. This will be sweet.

ScalerLover · 08-21-2009, 11:50 AM

I SAS'ed a CC-01 with an MRC, just FYI for everyone wondering.

Need more updates Pablo i wanna see it rollin and at ride height.
With MRC's under mine thats all the more i had to cut off the bottom of the tub for the axle to clear.

pantablo · 08-21-2009, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuriousCal

Been waiting to see a build-up on a SAS for while. Seems like there are a few SASed rigs floating around the site but no build-up. This will be sweet.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScalerLover

I SAS'ed a CC-01 with an MRC, just FYI for everyone wondering.

Need more updates Pablo i wanna see it rollin and at ride height.
With MRC's under mine thats all the more i had to cut off the bottom of the tub for the axle to clear.

Yep, scalerlover isnt getting any love for his. However, Scalerlover's rig basically used the cc01 chassis as a chasiss for a MRC based build. I don't consider it actually a SAS because the entire running gear was something else.

This build will use the cc01 transmission, with the gears that drive the front pulled out. The rear axle is a Beowulf OEM replacement casing that will use the stock cc01 internals. The front matching axle comes with its own internals to match the existing rears. So the rig will be a cc01 with the addition of a front solid axle and transfer case only.
I'll locate the tcase to allow me room for a RC4WD reduction unit later. Those are really great little things they make. SO worth the money (highly recommend them!).

I will make the front a 4-link. leafs are a great idea but I've never done them and want to make this a)easy on me and b)easy for the average hobbyist to do this as well. In that regard I will also use a standard body so the whole process should be easy to replicate for most. So no crew cabs or bodywork on this one.

The one thing I think is needed though is a link mount like the other RC4WD axles have. that way no real fabrication is needed, opening this mod up to the largest audience (Katan, you listening? lol). For my build I'll fab one up from brake line.

Still undecided on body...

Code454 · 08-21-2009, 01:19 PM

sweet cant wait to see more of this build, its cool to see someone do a nice sas swap

vipxj · 08-21-2009, 03:31 PM

This is really going to a different build , good on you giving it a go with your busy life.

Its going to make the CC a totally different beast, and its way cool that rc4wd have made a SAS axle so builders can actually do this themselves.

Looking forward to the updates Pantablo , well done.

killswitch · 08-21-2009, 06:12 PM

Nice start. Are you gonna try to hide the steering servo in the brick wall?

Redronin · 08-21-2009, 06:50 PM

SSSAAAAWEEEETTT i've been wondering how that would all work out and frankly been waiting for someone else to do it first! thanks it looking good!

pantablo · 08-21-2009, 07:08 PM

thanks guys. its very promising and I'm excited about it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by killswitch

Nice start. Are you gonna try to hide the steering servo in the brick wall?

yes, I'll install the servo up front like on my other rig and may leave the brick up front or remove it if it gets hung up on stuff.

pardonmyn00b · 08-21-2009, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pantablo

In that regard I will also use a standard body so the whole process should be easy to replicate for most. So no crew cabs or bodywork on this one.

Did I read that correctly?! You aren't going to cut up a body? Well I guess you got your fill of cutting on the chassis

Mad4Rnr · 08-25-2009, 05:18 PM

can't wait to see how this SAS turns out, just got my first CC-01 in the mail yesterday

Redwood · 08-25-2009, 06:32 PM

nice dude!

sloppy · 08-26-2009, 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pantablo

Yep, scalerlover isnt getting any love for his. However, Scalerlover's rig basically used the cc01 chassis as a chasiss for a MRC based build. I don't consider it actually a SAS because the entire running gear was something else.

WOW

I didnt know you were only allowed to change axles when doing a SAS.. humm I would bet that would be news to allot of people.

papabash · 08-26-2009, 06:32 AM

Okay, so I'm not a noobie, but does SAS stand for straight axle suspension?

microgoat · 08-26-2009, 06:42 AM

Solid Axle Swap.

papabash · 08-26-2009, 11:10 AM

Thanks! Sometimes the little things are easy to get hung up on........

pantablo · 08-26-2009, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sloppy

WOW

I didnt know you were only allowed to change axles when doing a SAS.. humm I would bet that would be news to allot of people.

if you change the trans, motor, both axles then its not really a SAS is it?

Terminator13 · 08-26-2009, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pantablo

if you change the trans, motor, both axles then its not really a SAS is it?

Well what are you doing then? Rc4wd's axle's are the same concept as the MRC's. You have to use your own suspension setup, figure out a motor setup, and the trans....

08-21-2009, 02:09 AM	#1
pantablo I wanna be Dave Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: santa monica Posts: 3,687	SAS cc-01 build (rolling chassis-9.1.09) Katan approached me a while back about doing a build using the new beowulf axles for the cc-01/xc chassis that he designed for RC4WD. Beautiful axles. Frankly, I have way too much on my plate with the builds I have going on right now, and with work really kicking my arse I have no business taking this on...I mean, I haven't had any real time to do serious building OR hit the rocks and make videos! THATS bad, lol. ...But I couldnt resist the challenge of trying to make this work in an easy way so here we are. See the front Beowulf cc-01/xc axle here: http://www.rc4wdstore.com/2/product_...roducts_id=801 Front and rear axles, axial trans for tcase, cc-01 chassis (currently on swb but will be run lwb). remove front axle assembly remove diff and gear that drives the diff, then cut away the area that held the diff. I'm not sure exactly how much I'll need to cut away in the end but started with the front axle diff area. Pulled the front axles and related gears. Whats left is the spur, that drives the lower gear driving the rear axle. leaving the front block for now in case I need it for leafs. ended up getting a Cold Case transfer case, my favorite (particularly good in this case due to size). will be easier to work with than the axial. measure about 2-3/4" clear at the rails they'll likely tuck... In terms of body I'm not 100% sure what I'll run. Plan A is to finish the sequoia and run it on this. The sequoia plan was always a cc-01 and doing a SAS on a Sequoia seems appropriate, lol. Plan B would be a defender 90 hardbody with the top cut off completely, windshield to back of body. I'm using an old cc-01 chassis I have and I'll replace parts its missing as I need. I'll be using stock MRC shocks (same length as pajero shocks but narrower, because I have them). May eventually go with 90mm dual rate shocks. I suspect I'll have the travel capability for those. WHY do a SAS? why not? More as I can get to it... Last edited by pantablo; 09-02-2009 at 01:52 AM.

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08-21-2009, 05:27 AM	#2
pardonmyn00b I wanna be Dave Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Unnecessary Surgery Land Posts: 3,406	Excellent

08-21-2009, 08:46 AM	#3
JOOTZ RCC Addict Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: never been Posts: 1,317	very interesting build.

08-21-2009, 10:45 AM	#4
FuriousCal Pebble Pounder Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Grants Pass, OR Posts: 119	Been waiting to see a build-up on a SAS for while. Seems like there are a few SASed rigs floating around the site but no build-up. This will be sweet.

08-21-2009, 11:50 AM	#5
ScalerLover Rock Crawler Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Marengo, Ohio Posts: 980	I SAS'ed a CC-01 with an MRC, just FYI for everyone wondering. Need more updates Pablo i wanna see it rollin and at ride height. With MRC's under mine thats all the more i had to cut off the bottom of the tub for the axle to clear.

08-21-2009, 01:19 PM	#7
Code454 Hateraide Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Mission BC Posts: 1,538	sweet cant wait to see more of this build, its cool to see someone do a nice sas swap

08-21-2009, 03:31 PM	#8
vipxj RCC Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: tauranga north island new zealand Posts: 1,786	This is really going to a different build , good on you giving it a go with your busy life. Its going to make the CC a totally different beast, and its way cool that rc4wd have made a SAS axle so builders can actually do this themselves. Looking forward to the updates Pantablo , well done.

08-21-2009, 06:12 PM	#9
killswitch RCC Addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: St. Albans Posts: 1,441	Nice start. Are you gonna try to hide the steering servo in the brick wall?

08-21-2009, 06:50 PM	#10
Redronin Pebble Pounder Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: O-town Posts: 191	SSSAAAAWEEEETTT i've been wondering how that would all work out and frankly been waiting for someone else to do it first! thanks it looking good!

08-25-2009, 05:18 PM	#13
Mad4Rnr RCC Addict Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Penngrove Posts: 1,809	can't wait to see how this SAS turns out, just got my first CC-01 in the mail yesterday

08-25-2009, 06:32 PM	#14
Redwood Pebble Pounder Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gualala CA Posts: 155	nice dude!

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08-26-2009, 06:32 AM	#16
papabash I wanna be Dave Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: SW Missouri Posts: 2,175	Okay, so I'm not a noobie, but does SAS stand for straight axle suspension?

08-26-2009, 06:42 AM	#17
microgoat I wanna be Dave Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 8,009	Solid Axle Swap.

08-26-2009, 11:10 AM	#18
papabash I wanna be Dave Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: SW Missouri Posts: 2,175	Thanks! Sometimes the little things are easy to get hung up on........

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