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06-01-2009, 06:41 PM
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| RCC Addict Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: 5280
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This is why I'm not worried about some issues at first, Rich has a good crew behind him. Well this I was unaware of, BUT can you confirm the material was made here and not overseas? China steel is cheap crap and is known for not being consistent or of any form of quality. Quote:
Yup, sad but true how this can happen. Like I said in the industry I work in, I have had to evaluate using a Chinese fabricator before. The Chinese can't keep 1 grade of steel consistent between plants, much less offer anything that is an equivalent to any USA made steel. But then again, with more beef or more of a radius this could have been a moot point. | ||
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06-01-2009, 06:50 PM
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| Ex Nor-CalRCRC slave   Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: San Mateo, CA.
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I'm sure China buys a good amount of steel from us. What they do with it when it gets there...who knows.
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06-01-2009, 07:31 PM
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| Rock Stacker Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Eugene
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06-01-2009, 07:49 PM
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| RCC Addict Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: 5280
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Most that I know of is made into die cast molds to sell us crap back | |
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06-01-2009, 07:56 PM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: May 2005 Location: Fort Wayne
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I thought there was a law change that prevented you from companies from putting a "Made In USA" sticker on their products if some parts were sourced from other countries. I know Novak had issues with that since they sourced China for some of the chips and there was a huge thing about sending the items back and what not. I may have misinterpreted that also. Does anyone know if Losi is working on a fix?
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06-01-2009, 08:06 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Madera
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 I in NO way can Guarantee the origin of the Steel or ANY material used in the LOSI comp crawler. . . Maybe Rich can comment on the subject if it's relevant. I was TOLD from MY friend and owner of my LHS- that quite simply 'LOS A' part #'s are sourced from A-merica ~ LOS B #'s are from overseas. In all honesty- the points made in various threads on this subject point out many weakness' in the design of the CVD itself, not just the STEEL? We're @ a standstill until the Man w/all the answers can share the solution(s).
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06-01-2009, 10:19 PM
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| RCC Addict Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Alpine,CA
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They are simply to hard. They are VERY Brittle. Has nothing to do with no outer bearing. If that was ever an issue during testing i assure you it would have been addressed. Talking to Jake face to face and Rich as well every comp for what seems like hours.. I have confidence if it was needed it would have been addressed.. | |
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06-01-2009, 11:00 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Las Cruces, New Mexico
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so looks like losi is at it again with making cheap stuff again like the lst1 and the xxx4. when will they learn that people like to drive their stuff and not let it sit on a shelf. i love losi but they have got really cheap in the past few years. sorry for all the crap talking im just tired of just all the stuff i have been looking for from losi just fail
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06-01-2009, 11:19 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Hueytown, Alabama
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Just saying...... | |
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06-01-2009, 11:55 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Las Cruces, New Mexico
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06-02-2009, 12:06 AM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Centered
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You can R&D till' the cows come home, but there will always be bugs to work out in the final production stage...always. That said, I still feel that Horizon Hobby's quality is sub-par to begin with, so don't be surprised to see a few clams with the Comp Crawler, or anything else they put out for that matter. It may say Losi, but there isn't a Losi within 500 miles of that joint :? |
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06-02-2009, 12:14 AM
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| RCC Addict Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Alpine,CA
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Correct, But wasnt a snapping case like we are seeing from them being so Hard, so i was told. And also like stated was only a couple | |
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06-02-2009, 07:08 AM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Dayton, Ohio
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 Not exactly true - maybe 50 miles though... Jr is still in SoCal.  - DK | |
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06-02-2009, 03:00 PM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Sale Creek, TN
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I talked to horizon today, and they said that they have not heard anything bad about the comp crawler.  I would say everybody needs to call horizon and tell them about the issues since they own losi. They said that their customer support would handle any issue.
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06-02-2009, 03:08 PM
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| Rock Crawler  Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Humble
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I have no doubt that the people that need to know do know, now we just need to see what they do if anything. My money rests on the aftermarket fixing the problems, All Losi will do for a while is send you a fresh set of bad CVD's. If I had an RC Shop I'd return all my Crawlers and reinvest in just parts....LOL | |
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06-02-2009, 03:26 PM
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| 20K Club   Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sending illegals home one Hayabusa at a time.
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The pictures I have seen don't look like an over hardened material problem. Those are usually pretty easy to see. I have seen several that look like they have a twist in them, you aren't going to see that with an overharden piece failing. I by no means have tons of faith in the designer behind the truck, so I don't have faith that Losi will ever come up with a decent solution. Sounds like they have been blowing a lot of smoke. | |
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06-02-2009, 03:27 PM
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| 20K Club Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sending illegals home one Hayabusa at a time.
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Has nobody else thought it was "interesting" how Rich posted up days before the release that this crawler "likes lighter weight wheels" ?  Say all you want but that sounds like you were clearly aware that the CVD's suck ass and you were going to try and minimize the what has turned into a freaking circus in here. I agree, I bet aftermarket it going to have to fix Losi mistake. |
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06-02-2009, 03:39 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Leicester, UK
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Im sure thats not the reason more the fact he's been working on this flat out for god knows how long im sure the guy is allowed a weekend off. Im thinking more along the lines of the manufaturer of the CVD's has screwed up.
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06-02-2009, 03:42 PM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Humble
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I gotta go with Harley on this one, I think they were at least aware of a potential problem.
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06-02-2009, 04:09 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Houston
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The new body looks cool at least.  |
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