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02-23-2010, 01:20 PM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Utah
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What setup were you running for motorama?
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02-23-2010, 01:34 PM
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| Y-Town Crawlers   Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Not Hesperia
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I ran my same setup from the last few comps, except I lowered my front shock arms to give the rig a little bit more belly clearance. I left the rears in the stock location. Here's my spec sheet Front Suspension: Upper Links: Top hole Shock Arm: Bottom hole (C) Shock Mount: Bottom hole (1) Shock Oil: Losi 50wt. Piston: Red #56 http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...rodID=LOSA5046 Internal Limiters: none External Limiters: 15mm Springs: Losi Gold http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...rodID=LOSA5144 Rear Suspension Upper Links: Bottom hole Shock Arm: Center hole (B) Shock Mount: Middle hole (3) Shock Oil: Losi 45wt. Piston: Red #56 http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...rodID=LOSA5046 Internal Limiters: none External Limiters: 12mm Springs: Losi Gold http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...rodID=LOSA5144 |
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02-23-2010, 04:59 PM
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You running the shocks right side up? Only the rear is still out boarded? You put heaver wt. upfront because the shocks are closer in? |
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02-23-2010, 05:29 PM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Sandy, OR
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I don't want to speak for Jake, but usually a little heavier up front to compensate for the weight difference between the front and rear. Heavier oil up front with the same pistons will keep the feel about the same with the extra weight of the front wheels and the forward weight bias. At least that is my guess and what I usually do.
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02-23-2010, 07:31 PM
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left to right. You would think maybe even a heavier weight or stiffer spring would be needed....But Jake is the pro....Just wanted to hear his thoughts on it. I have the 45/50wt. on my desk with all the gold springs and the #56 Pistons in mail....So trying to get as much info before I build them... Jake did you ever get to weight your rig??? I would love to know...I'm about 6lb, a little over with my heavy rim setup... Last edited by fa1rch1ld; 02-23-2010 at 07:35 PM. | |
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02-23-2010, 08:26 PM
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| Pebble Pounder Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Laurens SC
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My thought on the oil. If you run stiffer oil in the front then it will unload or rebound slower on climbs. Also it should compress slower on down hills. I don't think it has alot to do with outboarding the rear shocks. Right now I'm using 30 weight all the way around because it is to cold to run much stiffer here. As soon as it warms up I'm going to see if running the heavier oil will help the front end some. Just my 2 cents.
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02-23-2010, 09:49 PM
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Nice job on the win Jake! See you @ Horseman's on Saturday.
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02-23-2010, 10:38 PM
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I went with the heavier front oil to slow everything down and keep the front from unloading on sidehills. If you were to grab my rig and flex each end, the rear actually feels stiffer due to the outboarded shocks and the shock position. My front shocks are mounted in the lowest position (1), and my rear shocks are in the middle (3). With this combination, both axles work together throughout their travel, keeping the chassis pretty stable. EDIT: My front shocks are mounted upside down, and it works great. I still have the rears mounted right side up because since they are outboarded, they would bind at full flex. I haven't had a chance to weigh my rig lately. I don't have a good scale here any more but I will try to track one down soon. I'm pretty curious too  Last edited by Del Monte; 02-23-2010 at 10:40 PM. |
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02-24-2010, 12:15 AM
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10lb's. Was cheap also....Like $15 I think...Works great, highly recommend it....its small, but put your LiPo in, body with clips to get full weight and flip it on its lid.   | |
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02-24-2010, 12:25 AM
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| Pebble Pounder Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: SOCAL
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Thanks Del Monte for making such a killer helpful thread. It is invaluable information. May I encourage you to do the exact same thing for the mrc? My buddies and I have one as I'm sure most people in this tread do as well. It would help us all out greatly. It might even sell a few which is a good thing. Ok fine I'll beg PLEEEEZE Lol!!!
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02-24-2010, 11:12 AM
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Cool looking scale, I'm going to try to find one today Quote:
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02-24-2010, 11:30 AM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: With the ATL Crawlers
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02-24-2010, 06:12 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Hueytown, Alabama
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Great Job Jake! That one course killed me! As soon as I bobbled, that was it. Just got too nervous.  Yes, I was hoping those holes were going to swallow your rig.  You drove your ass off though and didnt let it happen. I put as much pressure on you as I could. :-P Cant wait to crawl with you again Jake, your a top class driver. Jeff |
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02-25-2010, 02:12 PM
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Ok Jake. I have read this entire thread about 20 times  Ordering my LCC tomorrow.Getting xcelorin system mid March, but my wife won't let me grow a beard. I am still awe struck at your performance at motorama Great to have met you and can't wait to get my butt kicked at Motorama 2011 |
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02-25-2010, 03:08 PM
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Tons of good info and pics in this thread, thanks Jake. BTW you can get scales at Harbor Freight for a decent price.
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02-25-2010, 03:58 PM
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02-25-2010, 04:08 PM
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02-25-2010, 07:41 PM
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Congrats man!!! I take it you moved the front shock arms to help the front end droop out? Or am I looking at it backwards here? Hope to see ya out at the AWCC, if not sooner |
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02-25-2010, 08:09 PM
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Exactly. There weren't any huge breakovers at Motorama, there were a few decent ones. Since the rock was so slick in places, I couldn't get enough traction to jump over ledges with the low belly height.
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02-25-2010, 08:53 PM
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