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itsonlysir · 03-24-2011, 05:45 PM

last night i out boarded my rear shocks , wile i was at it i flipped my shocks upside down . now the funny part .. the rear acts fine and springs back up when pushed down .. but the front will stay down if i push the frame down .. i tried laying down the shocks , standing them up...

how would changing the rear shocks around cause the front not to want to spring back ?? as far as i can see nothing is binding in the rear .. hummm

concretejungle · 03-25-2011, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by itsonlysir

last night i out boarded my rear shocks , wile i was at it i flipped my shocks upside down . now the funny part .. the rear acts fine and springs back up when pushed down .. but the front will stay down if i push the frame down .. i tried laying down the shocks , standing them up...

how would changing the rear shocks around cause the front not to want to spring back ?? as far as i can see nothing is binding in the rear .. hummm

same thing happened to me. You might not be able to see it very well, but there is bind in the shock. If you loosen the bolts holding the shock ends on, you will see that it will free them up. Keep spacing them in/out until you get rid of that bind.

punkfan · 03-25-2011, 12:33 PM

The other thing to check is the mounting point on the axle. When you flip them you have to grind that a bit so the flat on the shock will piviot freely. I dont think that youd effect the front if you didnt flip them, but it might.

Robbob · 03-25-2011, 02:01 PM

Its probably the angle created at the bottom (now top) of the shock. try spacing that out a bit more and see if it frees it up.

Heres my angles with no binding. I actually moved my shock arms out farther so I didnt have to run such a big spacer at the shock.

Definately check the axle side too ......... just a bit of plastic binds it up also.

mrG · 03-25-2011, 02:26 PM

Now if only they wouldn't leak you'd be golden

itsonlysir · 03-25-2011, 08:02 PM

not leak , hahahahahah

. riiight , but thats half the fun . . ill get pics hear in a sec but i haven't flipped the front yet. that's tonight project. i haven't flipped the shocks in the front yet, or outboard them . thats why its weird . ill do like yall said tonight when i flip the front shocks ... as far as the rear the i did flip and outboard . they spring back up great .

robbob ,, do you like the fronts out boarded as apose to just the rears ?

killswitch · 03-27-2011, 07:56 PM

I run my fronts outboarded as well and they rub, but they have on every other rig I've ever built to... A lot of it is taken out when limiting up travel on the shock shaft.

russp · 03-27-2011, 10:19 PM

so question. What does flipping and out boarding the shocks do performance wize?
Thanks

Walter95 · 03-28-2011, 02:58 AM

Flipping the shocks lower CG a touch. Outboarding adds stability by changing the wheel rate. Springs will be just a bit firmer once the shock is outboarded.

Robbob · 03-28-2011, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by itsonlysir

robbob ,, do you like the fronts out boarded as apose to just the rears ?

I do. Theres pro's and con's to it but for me and my driving the pro's won.

The rig for me feels more predictable when speed is needed and navigating the little things. When it comes time to side hill or twist the rig off camber it feels to balance out and settle down easier.

punkfan · 03-28-2011, 08:57 AM

One more thing you can do is buy the shock mount spacers from rob_b or DIY. Basicly you move the mount out further reducing the angle of your shocks from axle to chassis. rather than this / \ you have something more like this | |

itsonlysir · 04-14-2011, 01:16 AM

all is working great thanks

itsonlysir · 04-14-2011, 01:16 AM

seams that the rear was binding a bit , not allowing the front to work correctly

03-24-2011, 05:45 PM	#1
itsonlysir Newbie Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Virginia newport news Posts: 32	weird suspension problem after flipping shocks last night i out boarded my rear shocks , wile i was at it i flipped my shocks upside down . now the funny part .. the rear acts fine and springs back up when pushed down .. but the front will stay down if i push the frame down .. i tried laying down the shocks , standing them up... how would changing the rear shocks around cause the front not to want to spring back ?? as far as i can see nothing is binding in the rear .. hummm

03-25-2011, 12:33 PM	#3
punkfan Quarry Creeper Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Knee deep in a creek with a fish on the line Posts: 456	The other thing to check is the mounting point on the axle. When you flip them you have to grind that a bit so the flat on the shock will piviot freely. I dont think that youd effect the front if you didnt flip them, but it might.

03-25-2011, 02:01 PM	#4
Robbob Custom Carbon Fiber Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Connecticut :( Posts: 4,501	Its probably the angle created at the bottom (now top) of the shock. try spacing that out a bit more and see if it frees it up. Heres my angles with no binding. I actually moved my shock arms out farther so I didnt have to run such a big spacer at the shock. Definately check the axle side too ......... just a bit of plastic binds it up also.

03-25-2011, 02:26 PM	#5
mrG RCC Addict Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: In the thinking chair Posts: 991	Now if only they wouldn't leak you'd be golden

03-25-2011, 08:02 PM	#6
itsonlysir Newbie Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Virginia newport news Posts: 32	not leak , hahahahahah . riiight , but thats half the fun . . ill get pics hear in a sec but i haven't flipped the front yet. that's tonight project. i haven't flipped the shocks in the front yet, or outboard them . thats why its weird . ill do like yall said tonight when i flip the front shocks ... as far as the rear the i did flip and outboard . they spring back up great . robbob ,, do you like the fronts out boarded as apose to just the rears ?

03-27-2011, 07:56 PM	#7
killswitch RCC Addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: St. Albans Posts: 1,441	I run my fronts outboarded as well and they rub, but they have on every other rig I've ever built to... A lot of it is taken out when limiting up travel on the shock shaft.

03-27-2011, 10:19 PM	#8
russp Newbie Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Redlands, CA Posts: 35	so question. What does flipping and out boarding the shocks do performance wize? Thanks

03-28-2011, 02:58 AM	#9
Walter95 Rock Stacker Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 62	Flipping the shocks lower CG a touch. Outboarding adds stability by changing the wheel rate. Springs will be just a bit firmer once the shock is outboarded.

03-28-2011, 08:57 AM	#11
punkfan Quarry Creeper Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Knee deep in a creek with a fish on the line Posts: 456	One more thing you can do is buy the shock mount spacers from rob_b or DIY. Basicly you move the mount out further reducing the angle of your shocks from axle to chassis. rather than this / \ you have something more like this \| \|

04-14-2011, 01:16 AM	#12
itsonlysir Newbie Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Virginia newport news Posts: 32	all is working great thanks

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