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z50king 05-18-2012 01:39 PM

How to mount shocks upside down
 
How are shocks mounted upside down?.... Or actually it's right side up in most terms, with the shafts at the top and reservoirs on the bottom?

I took one off to see how it would work and it looks like the frame mount is fine but the mount of the axle needs and eyelet and it won't move around like it did.

Any help? I looked through the tip thread but didn't see it. And I can't search the forum because I can't select the forum in search on my phone.

ghtpdm5 05-18-2012 01:45 PM

Re: How to mount shocks upside down
 
traxxas balls out of 1942 ends are what i use for my front axle, outboarded with some delrin and a homemade bolt. the rears are outboarded with 1 inch bolts, a small chunk of delrin, and the stock ball thingys that mount on the arms, last page of my thread has nice pics. for leaving them in the stock position, the traxxas balls work fine.

z50king 05-19-2012 02:45 AM

Re: How to mount shocks upside down
 
did you outboard them because you had to or because you wanted to? If I outboard the fronts, I think they will catch on the tire? Why do you use the traxxas balls for the front and the stock holders on the rear?

Im all good mounting the ball in the eyelet on top, just have those questions about the lowers. ANd thank you

hoghead5150 05-19-2012 10:14 AM

Re: How to mount shocks upside down
 
not sure why you would want to mount them upside down. the weight really doesn't change enough to make any difference, and when i tried it it made the shocks more unpredictable.

what is your reason for wanting them upside down?

Robbob 05-19-2012 11:33 AM

Re: How to mount shocks upside down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by z50king (Post 3738417)
How are shocks mounted upside down?.... Or actually it's right side up in most terms, with the shafts at the top and reservoirs on the bottom?

I took one off to see how it would work and it looks like the frame mount is fine but the mount of the axle needs and eyelet and it won't move around like it did.

Any help? I looked through the tip thread but didn't see it. And I can't search the forum because I can't select the forum in search on my phone.


you need to shave the mount area on the axle some. the rounded area hits the flat spots on the losi bodies and causes them to bind.

Use an Axial ball end or a Traxxas one and a long screw. Hope the pics help.

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b.../ADSC05084.png
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b.../ADSC04941.png




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Originally Posted by hoghead5150 (Post 3739433)
not sure why you would want to mount them upside down. the weight really doesn't change enough to make any difference, and when i tried it it made the shocks more unpredictable.

what is your reason for wanting them upside down?


you were probably feeling the effect of the air inside. give them some pumps/cycles before you run and they should feel more consistent.

had to do this on mine all the time. others have done the same thing and noticed the feel.

if you think about the weight in over all grams its actually a lot you move down lower. ;-)

EeePee 05-19-2012 02:48 PM

Re: How to mount shocks upside down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ghtpdm5 (Post 3738423)
traxxas balls out of 1942 ends

Pretty sure that's what I used also.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoghead5150 (Post 3739433)
not sure why you would want to mount them upside down.

Yep, weight, but even better, they don't leak as much.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbob (Post 3739482)
give them some pumps/cycles before you run and they should feel more consistent.

had to do this on mine all the time. others have done the same thing and noticed the feel.

Yep, exactly right.

1942 balls (I guess), and I even let them move around a bit, instead of using o-rings on either side to keep them centered in the axle mount.

http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/membe...1591-16786.jpg

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losikid 05-19-2012 05:03 PM

Re: How to mount shocks upside down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EeePee (Post 3739612)
Pretty sure that's what I used also.



Yep, weight, but even better, they don't leak as much.


Yep, exactly right.

1942 balls (I guess), and I even let them move around a bit, instead of using o-rings on either side to keep them centered in the axle mount.

http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/membe...1591-16786.jpg

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I like your weight savings technique by removing the br-xl heatsink. How many grams did you save?

DRTMI 05-19-2012 07:11 PM

Re: How to mount shocks upside down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by losikid (Post 3739734)
I like your weight savings technique by removing the br-xl heatsink. How many grams did you save?

Looks to me like it might have blown off.:shock:

z50king 05-20-2012 02:57 AM

Re: How to mount shocks upside down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EeePee (Post 3739612)
Yep, weight, but even better, they don't leak as much.

http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/membe...1591-16786.jpg

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Yes, somewhat for the weight but mostly for the no leakage. So did you shave the inside of the shock mounts so they will move better? When I did one of mine, It would not travel all the way because the big flat tabs got stuck in there

EeePee 05-20-2012 08:46 AM

Re: How to mount shocks upside down
 
Yeah, small issue with that controller. :mrgreen:

I did shave/sand/grind the plastic for clearance, yes. I had to go look to be sure.

AddictedtoRC1 05-27-2012 09:00 PM

Re: How to mount shocks upside down
 
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This is how I did mine. I cut off the (what would be normally be the top eyelet) with my Dremel. Drilled out the top and tapped it with a 3MM tap. Took a 3mm countersunk screw, wrapped it with teflon tape, added some low strength thread lock and ran it up through from the inside into a Traxxas shock end. It is a very clean and leak free setup if done right and it gives me a bit more of down travel which has seemed to come in handy so far. I might add it is almost as if Losi figured someone would do this because if you take apart your shock and look into the top, it is already countersunk to seat a counter sink screw head. Ironic? Maybe!

Attachment 198066

dentonmac 05-28-2012 06:21 AM

Re: How to mount shocks upside down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AddictedtoRC1 (Post 3751744)
This is how I did mine. I cut off the (what would be normally be the top eyelet) with my Dremel. Drilled out the top and tapped it with a 3MM tap. Took a 3mm countersunk screw, wrapped it with teflon tape, added some low strength thread lock and ran it up through from the inside into a Traxxas shock end. It is a very clean and leak free setup if done right and it gives me a bit more of down travel which has seemed to come in handy so far. I might add it is almost as if Losi figured someone would do this because if you take apart your shock and look into the top, it is already countersunk to seat a counter sink screw head. Ironic? Maybe!

Attachment 198066

Nice! That is a great idea. Even if you ran them upright.

You could also limit internally to get the stock length back.

AddictedtoRC1 05-28-2012 07:46 PM

Re: How to mount shocks upside down
 
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Originally Posted by dentonmac (Post 3752065)
Nice! That is a great idea. Even if you ran them upright.

You could also limit internally to get the stock length back.

Thanks man. Yeah I was thinking that, but the little bit of extra length makes it nice.

Gotspaulding 05-30-2012 11:09 PM

Re: How to mount shocks upside down
 
Nice build I was told this couldn't be done...guess theybwere wrong do the shocks seem to work better? Or about the same

Frikenwoodro 05-31-2012 12:16 AM

Re: How to mount shocks upside down
 
From what I have read they are "unpredictable" I still wanna give it a whorl lol

Hittman 05-31-2012 12:19 AM

Re: How to mount shocks upside down
 
They definitely feel different... But you get used to it"thumbsup"

AddictedtoRC1 06-01-2012 09:25 PM

Re: How to mount shocks upside down
 
They do feel a bit different, but I think for the better. I love mine the way I have them.


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