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08-09-2016, 07:58 PM | #1 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Harrisburg/York
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| New to a LCC but also have a LNC 2.0...Recommendations?
Getting back into RC's after years of being away. I played with the touring car scene / Nitro back in the early 2000's. Went to Motoramma in Harrisburg PA in Feb...saw everyone playing with the LNC and ECX Tempers and decided the kid and I needed one. My son is bored with his 1/18 ECX Temper and always wants to play with my LNC 2.0...found a reasonable deal on a practically new LCC...so time for him to get the LNC and me to build my LCC. Here is current state; Opened the axles, worms look new and were greased well (even have the set screw mod to allow regreasing), they are stock worms. Opened up the Dig, not a mark on the gears, refreshed the shocks and added Comp Crawler Carbon Low Profile Servo Mount. It came with a Losi Dig Servo and New High Torque Steering Servo, just not installed. The wheels/tires that came are JConcepts Rocx's but they wheel don't properly fix the LCC...they only allow a thread or 2 for the nut... Now it's time for me to look for a motor combo... I'm not going to do comps, it's for playing with my kid and I don't want to spend a crazy amount of money. Looking to go brushless, probably 17.5 sensored equivalent...thoughts? |
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08-11-2016, 05:47 AM | #2 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Detroit
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| Re: New to a LCC but also have a LNC 2.0...Recommendations?
most of the time you get what you pay for. a good/ best setup is a 13.5 t sensored brushless. with a decent esc of course. some of my motors for 1/10th scale cost up to $130 a piece. |
08-11-2016, 06:42 AM | #3 |
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| Re: New to a LCC but also have a LNC 2.0...Recommendations?
Olle has some good information in the first post of this thread. The biggest enemy in the Losi is heat/friction. Theres a ton of useful information in his thread and many others from years prior. 13.5 and 17.5 motors are ideal for brushless setups. Sticking to some of the more popular name brands is a good idea. You can find lessor expensive ones through places like RCMart or even Hobby King. they'll work well and save you some coin until you feel its time to upgrade. The truck may feel frustrating at first but give it time and keep trying new things and practice ..... it really is a great rig for the shafty class type trucks. In the competition world I feel like it will still out perform others but its not given enough credit. Last edited by Robbob; 08-11-2016 at 12:17 PM. |
08-11-2016, 07:50 AM | #4 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Deep in the Everglades
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| New to a LCC but also have a LNC 2.0...Recommendations?
Tekin sensored 17.5 MMP , sweet combo. |
08-11-2016, 09:48 AM | #5 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Detroit
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| Re: New to a LCC but also have a LNC 2.0...Recommendations?
17.5 might seem a little slow for him.. so I put down 13.5 as a good sped/torque suggestion. also different motors can use the same rotor. trinity d4 cans can use a "short stack" rotor. it has more torque. duratrax DE-10 is a good and easy to use esc. I have 6 race rigs with them. good esc's |
08-11-2016, 02:37 PM | #6 |
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| Re: New to a LCC but also have a LNC 2.0...Recommendations?
So now my follow up question based on these responses...does the advertisement of a "Crawler" brushless setup mean anything or is it more of an advertisement ploy...meaning any brushless motor with it being a 13.5 or 17.5 with a good esc would work. Example here - Losi: 1/10 Xcelorin Sensored Rock Crawling System 21.5T: Losi (LOSB9585) Advertised as a Crawler system... |
08-11-2016, 02:40 PM | #7 |
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| Re: New to a LCC but also have a LNC 2.0...Recommendations? |
08-11-2016, 02:55 PM | #8 | ||
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| Re: New to a LCC but also have a LNC 2.0...Recommendations? Quote:
In my opinion - No, it was just a selling point. Things were a little different with them such as bigger rotors or esc settings but nothing that justified buying specifically labeled 'crawler'. Quote:
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08-11-2016, 03:21 PM | #9 |
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| Re: New to a LCC but also have a LNC 2.0...Recommendations? Thank you...this whole time i've been searching for a "crawler" brushless system thinking there had to be major justifiable difference, but reading mixed reviews on the systems.
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08-11-2016, 03:29 PM | #10 | |
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| Re: New to a LCC but also have a LNC 2.0...Recommendations? Quote:
It probably doesn't get enough credit due to the high maintenance of the worms. | |
08-11-2016, 05:34 PM | #11 |
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08-11-2016, 06:20 PM | #12 |
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| Re: New to a LCC but also have a LNC 2.0...Recommendations?
I ran a tekin rs and tekin 13.5t sensored brushless motor and I loved that setup. If I was to buy another brushless setup today. I would go with Holmes Hobbies. He makes some great stuff Brushless Motor Combo - Combos Also, on that lcc get rid of the 25:1 worm gears and find you a set of the HD worms (21:1) that come in the LNC's. OR, if you can hunt them down. DLUX chromoly worms were the bee's knees. Also, make sure you have the v3 CVD's in that LCC. (They have the spring around the cup to hold the pin in.) The rest is really tuning what you got and some upgrades here and there. Dlux just came out with some pretty sweet knuckles, LCC knuckles and steering links |
08-11-2016, 11:09 PM | #13 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Roseville, Ca
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| Re: New to a LCC but also have a LNC 2.0...Recommendations?
I run a mmp and roc 412 3100kv in my lnc and love it. But now I'm going to run a holmes 540 stubby 3300kv. You should check out his stubby size, he also has lower kv verisons too. If you really want a cheap setup, hobbywing esc with a cheap 50 dollar motor from ebay.
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08-12-2016, 04:18 AM | #14 | |
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| Re: New to a LCC but also have a LNC 2.0...Recommendations? Quote:
Was thinking of putting 1 in the front of the LNC, get the overdrive and easier steering I keep reading about. Dlux has some good stuff! | |
08-12-2016, 05:12 AM | #15 |
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08-12-2016, 08:22 AM | #16 |
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| Re: New to a LCC but also have a LNC 2.0...Recommendations?
Tib, make sure to pick up some of dlux rear lower bent links.
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08-12-2016, 02:26 PM | #17 | |
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| Re: New to a LCC but also have a LNC 2.0...Recommendations? Quote:
Edit: I guess I should say the newer LNC's. Like the 2.0 you have. Last edited by losikid; 08-12-2016 at 02:31 PM. | |
08-12-2016, 02:51 PM | #18 | |
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| Re: New to a LCC but also have a LNC 2.0...Recommendations? Quote:
I rotated the driveshaft and counted turns...the LCC I have has the stock 25:1 worms. | |
08-12-2016, 02:54 PM | #19 |
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09-08-2016, 06:54 PM | #20 |
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| Re: New to a LCC but also have a LNC 2.0...Recommendations?
A little more work done; Black Chrome Comp Crawler Wheels with JConcept Tires. I put 4oz in the front and 2.5oz in the rear to start. Installed the JX Servo that I was given...PDI-6221MG. Also picked up a fresh body to paint...thinking white/blue with smoked windows. Last edited by Tib; 09-08-2016 at 06:57 PM. |
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