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04-10-2008, 09:26 AM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2004
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|  Proline Tire Shootout Results Here are the results. Take note that this portion of the test was done on slick rock and a whole new chart will be posted for the test that was conducted on a different type of terrain. This should give you a good overall idea of tire performance. You can see from the chart, each " number grade" that the tire received, using a 1 through 10 scale. I have also included Likes and Dislikes described from the testing drivers. Lastly, the Proline website will have the detailed report if you need more information. I will post the link to this written review once it is up on their site. UPDATED CHART WITH M3 FLAT IRON  SlickRock/Sandstone Hammer M2 Likes: Open lugs M2 Compound Low speed crawling ability Alternating lugs (open/solid/open/solid) Side Hilling Vertical climbing Size Looks Dislikes: Long break in period Best for: All rock terrain competition tire. Steep verticals and side hilling are best attribute. Crawl slow or fast and they work. Look good enough for scale builds. Hammer M3 Likes: Similar to the Hammer M2 in performance Side Hilling Size Looks No break in necessary Mud clearing ability Work when wet Dislikes: Too soft LFO (Lug Fold Over) Should run a lighter truck with these tires Foam is critical when running these tires Hard to mount on bead lock wheels Best for: Granite or river rock boulder crawling. Slick rock tends to cause too much LFO. Use with a multistage or firm foam is a must to allow lugs to grab. Work better than any other tire when wet. Badlands M2 Likes: Best at Side hilling, climbing Fast or slow crawl speed is excellent Wide or narrow wheel acceptable Size is great Worked well in dirt, rock, sand, any terrain No tire push or scrubbing Dislikes: Small sidewall lugs Slight LFO due to smaller tread lugs Mud clearing ability Best for: Slick Rock competition. Best side hilling tire of the bunch, by far. Excellent climbers. Don’t load them up with mud. Work best when dry. Throw them at any type of rock and the work. Badlands M3 Likes: Work similarly to the Badlands M2 Side Hilling Slow crawl speed friendly Cleared mud better than the M2 Badlands. No break in needed Dislikes: Too soft, LFO Hard to mount, lost a bead once during testing Had to use a very firm foam Tread wears quickly Best for: Boulder crawling and damp areas. Moab M2 Likes: Proven tread and sidewall design Clears mud fairly well Tread wear More of an all terrain tire Very easy to mount Dislikes: Dated tread and sidewall design Long break in period Side hilling Wheel speed slippage Best for: Bashing, crawling and practice. No longer considered a hardcore Competition tire compared to new Proline rubber. Best for large, jagged rock. Moab M3 Likes: Softer compound combined with the proven Moab Hooks up and side hills better than M2 Moab Soft memory foam required Easy to mount Dislikes: Dated tread and sidewall design Slight LFO Front tire push Best for: Jagged boulder competition crawling and some slick rock. Moab M3 Modified Likes: Modifications help in vertical climbs and side hilling Dislikes: Had to modify and cut a lot of rubber More LFO Tread wear was quicker Had to use a very firm foam for support Best for: Experimentation. All around competition tire. Masher 2000 M3 Likes: They are big! Great for big rock! Huge lug bars help pull ledges M3 compound is a big improvement Use any foam and they work Mount on wide or narrow wheel Can run tread in either direction Easily modified Large voids for best mud clearing Dislikes: Side hilling Hurt steep climbing ability Old school Chevron tread pattern No sidewall lugs Best for: Largest rock in competition. Pulling ledges and rock racing. Flatirons M2 Likes: Overall size and looks Tread pattern with kerfs Aggressive sidewall lugs Flat tread with no crowning Forward traction and side hilling Stiffer carcass, so foam is not as critical Large voids for good mud clearing Hook up when on the throttle No LFO at all, except on the outer should lugs Long tread wear Dislikes: Long break in period Best for: Slick rock competition. Wheel speed. Last edited by DirkDigler; 04-15-2008 at 11:40 AM. |
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04-10-2008, 09:35 AM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2004
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04-10-2008, 09:50 AM
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| Pebble Pounder Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: uk
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| brilliant write up and the new tyre looks good and seems to perform well  Last edited by NIK; 04-10-2008 at 09:53 AM. |
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04-10-2008, 09:53 AM
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| Rock Stacker Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Charlotte
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04-10-2008, 09:53 AM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: In the corn
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| When are the Flatiron's being released? |
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04-10-2008, 09:53 AM
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| Pebble Pounder Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Albuquerque
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| That's a good looking tire...also looks like it performed very well even with no break in....very promising. |
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04-10-2008, 09:58 AM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Denverish
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| Hey, this is really good. Thanks for all the hard work! I'm sure you hated every minute of it...  |
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04-10-2008, 09:58 AM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2004
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| here's another shot of the Proline Flatirons. FRankyrizzo will have a bunch more shots of them in action, later today.  Last edited by DirkDigler; 04-10-2008 at 10:01 AM. |
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04-10-2008, 10:03 AM
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| Web Wheeling   Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Twin Cities
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| Dirk, could you host the images on a more reliable server? Imageshack isn't doing to hot with this one. If you want, I can host it on my site, just email me the file to turtlecrawler@gmail.com |
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04-10-2008, 10:15 AM
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| Rock Crawler   Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Tennessee
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| wow thats a good looking tire! Last edited by rbl; 04-10-2008 at 10:19 AM. |
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04-10-2008, 10:19 AM
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| RCC Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Akron
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| The flatirons look like a revamped masher. I like em! |
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04-10-2008, 10:24 AM
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| Gold Star Baby!   Join Date: May 2007 Location: Taylors Falls just hanging with the MNRCRC crew.
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| Well done Dirk , nice report very helpful the Flatiron looks promising for sure. |
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04-10-2008, 10:41 AM
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| RCC Addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Commerce Twp.
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| Dirk, It looks like you and Mr. Rizzo really worked your arsses off.  Thank guys for bringing this information to the table.  |
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04-10-2008, 10:55 AM
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| RCC Addict Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: MS Gulf Coast
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| Good work guys! It's good to see the results and how they all compare. I like the new Flatirons, they do look like a good scale and comp tire. |
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04-10-2008, 11:07 AM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Merryville
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| Which foams were used in the test? Edit: Also will the Flatirons be released with Memory Foams as well? |
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04-10-2008, 11:26 AM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2004
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there will be an option for standard foam and memory foams......in M2 and M3. I have not tested the M3 Flatiron yet. | |
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04-10-2008, 11:38 AM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Merryville
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| Thank you, looking forward to having the $$ to buy some. And the rest of the rig to run them. |
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04-10-2008, 11:38 AM
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| Web Wheeling Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Twin Cities
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|  for others having problems with image shack  |
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04-10-2008, 11:47 AM
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| Paypal....arghhhh!!  Join Date: May 2006 Location: HONDURAS...ROCK HEAVEN
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| Thanks Dirk and Rizzo for this very nice test and comparison, i hope it helps others make good decisions when they purchase a set of tires, i can't say the same for me as i will always end up buying all of them anyways  , but it helps to know which will work better where. |
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04-10-2008, 11:58 AM
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| Moving on!!  Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Colorado Springs
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| I have to say everyone, the flat irons really impressed me!! I have been keeping my mouth shut for a few weeks waiting for Dirk or Franky to "officially Debut" this tire, I was there one day when Dirk was testing them. They outperformed my m3 Hammers and kept up to the Losi's the whole day of messing around. The M2 FI performed very well, can't wait to see the M3 FI. I think with the shorter lugs, the m3 FI could be the tire. Not sure it will take over as a new comp tire(Did perform really well). I can say this, the Flat Irons will be the new scale tire to have, no other scale looking tire I have seen performed like they did. Funny to think, this was a tire PL wasn't going to produce. I think it might be your biggest hit!!! |
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