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Old 03-30-2004, 02:31 PM   #1
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Hey Gang!

Today, my fellow crawlers, I may have created the single best option for tires. Using regular tires and rims, I have made adjustable pneumatic tires for the main purpose of rock crawling. The combination of multiple tire selection and multiple tire pressures allows many more variables of tuning over tires with foam inserts. Have I gotten you all interested? I plan to get pictures later tonight, and possibly write an article for all to view on this site. Again, what do you think? It will work with most rims(depending on offset) and all tires.
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Old 03-30-2004, 02:56 PM   #2
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Sounds interesting I cant wait to see some pics.
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Old 03-31-2004, 11:28 AM   #3
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I have seen this done to a Savage wheel and tire. I could see it working better for crawling, than it did on a "race truck". It worked terrible on the Savage. It seemed that there was no real "perfect" air pressure. It either bounced out of control or was too soft and it handled poorly. I also didn't like the way the guy designed the air nozzle. It was bulky and in the way. I will be curious to see what you have come up with and how well it works.
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Old 11-21-2007, 12:16 AM   #4
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As Dirk suggested, this admirable objective (tubes I assume) would be quite a challenge. After all think of the variables in making the tubes, getting the proper dimensions for the side wall and tread so that wide tires fold inwards when rolling over rocks, as opposed to sliding off to the side like a dough nut, while at the same time holding rectangular when side hilling,
. (BTW if anyone has a good idea of where to start on such a geometry problem, please pm or post in this thread)
finding material that is strong but extremely flexible,
and has just enough flex, but doesn't lose air,
making seam seals that are air tight but as flexible as the rest of the tire material...

after all, tire manufacturers spend millions just to engineer regular, nothing special new tires; while the concept is easy, the design is very design intensive
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Old 11-21-2007, 12:20 AM   #5
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As Dirk suggested, this admirable objective (tubes I assume) would be quite a challenge. After all think of the variables in making the tubes, getting the proper dimensions for the side wall and tread so that wide tires fold inwards when rolling over rocks, as opposed to sliding off to the side like a dough nut, while at the same time holding rectangular when side hilling,
. (BTW if anyone has a good idea of where to start on such a geometry problem, please pm or post in this thread)
finding material that is strong but extremely flexible,
and has just enough flex, but doesn't lose air,
making seam seals that are air tight but as flexible as the rest of the tire material...

after all, tire manufacturers spend millions just to engineer regular, nothing special new tires; while the concept is easy, the design is very design intensive


Are you for real? You wake up a 3.5 year old thread? What the hell were you searching for?

Waking up a 3.5 year old thread is like taking something back to the store 3.5 years later wanting a refund. Ghey.
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Old 11-21-2007, 12:30 AM   #6
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where are the pics
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I just narrowed my Kongs and added MGT tread side biters. These things are gonna dominate in the comps.
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I just narrowed my Kongs and added MGT tread side biters. These things are gonna dominate in the comps.
Wasn't that just yesterday that we were doing that?
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I just narrowed my Kongs and added MGT tread side biters. These things are gonna dominate in the comps.


hahahahaaaa!!!

ive seen the pneumatic thing tried before... if you can make it work well then by all means, have at it!
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I think its time I looked through all of the oldest threads to be found,never know what one might find,like a laugh or two.
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Well while it's open....

A friend of mine took valve cores out of some valve stems for car tires, drilled a 3/16" hole in his wheels, and inserted them. He doesn't pressurize the tires, but they hold air (beadlocks). If they do lose air, he just presses the valve core and it fills back up.

Works pretty good actually. (moab XL's)
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Old 11-21-2007, 02:10 PM   #12
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My Imex Swamp Dawgs seemed to work real well with the holes in the rims plugged and a fairly air-tight seal on the tires. of course they handled like CRAP at high speed and the rollover tendency was a lot higher, but they got traction like maaaaaaaaad.... at least on the white rocks and busted concrete I run on.

I kept thinking it would have been nice to maybe add a couple pounds of air to 'em to shore 'em up a bit.

The main problem here is that 1:1 tires have a tire sidewall that is designed to be fairly supportive and stiff, whereas an R/C tire isn't really designed to do this (the foam is supposed to give shape and support to the tires.)

If Tires with heavier (or just stiffer) side-walls were made, pneumatic R/C tires, that offered ease of adjustability and weren't a bulky, cluttered affair, could be the next killer thing..
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Old 11-21-2007, 04:06 PM   #13
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Although this seems like a good idea at first I think it would be disastrous in your rock crawler. You would never be able to control the "bounce" that a pneumatic tire in-cure. Especially if you were to use a droop suspension were you don't have any suspension to begin with. It might work in a super size rig with a full suspension that has a heavy weight but that might be another debate.
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Waking up a 3.5 year old thread is like taking something back to the store 3.5 years later wanting a refund. Ghey.
Hey, this Moose Snot doesn't work! I want my money back!
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Are you for real? You wake up a 3.5 year old thread? What the hell were you searching for?

Waking up a 3.5 year old thread is like taking something back to the store 3.5 years later wanting a refund. Ghey.
I have a set of Centipede Engineering adjustable motor mounts I'd like to return. I don't have the receipt, I hope that's ok. LMK.
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I have a set of Centipede Engineering adjustable motor mounts I'd like to return. I don't have the receipt, I hope that's ok. LMK.


Return them.. I'll send an address. There won't be any refunds, only returns to me.









Do you really have some? Those will be a collector item!
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