Crawler Innovations Khaos-Rover Comp Tire

[ROCKEDUP RICKY]

I told you that was to much toe-out.

And what I seen of these tires they worked really well. I think they did a little better on the slick rock ,than the Rovers.

[Stormin2u]

Shane the foam looks like the set-up similar to the ones Eddie sent me for the Hateraids what a great package. This tire looks very promising I'm liking the height. How does it compare to your Hateraid tires?

[Szczerba]

Originally Posted by Stormin2u

Shane the foam looks like the set-up similar to the ones Eddie sent me for the Hateraids what a great package. This tire looks very promising I'm liking the height. How does it compare to your Hateraid tires?

I gave up on the Haterades cause I didn't have the right foam in my arsenal (and I was too lazy to get some from Eddie). I couldnt tune them to the way I wanted them.
So, I just got these from Eddie at Nationals. Pretty much ready to go without much tuning other than some front wheel weight.
I do like that the Khaos-Rover's are wider than the Haterades.

[Nova's Ark]

Did you go Crawlapalooza? If so, did you use these tires?

[Szczerba]

Originally Posted by Nova's Ark

Did you go Crawlapalooza? If so, did you use these tires?

Yes I did go and No I did not use the Khaos-Rovers. I was a little worried about running the memories in the cooler weather.
I ran siped Rovers with CI DD 5.5" foams.

I ran the Khaos-Rovers last weekend at the Ark/La/Miss comp in Little Rock, AR.
Alot of slick loose shale-gravel with slick rock outcroppings and jagged edges. They worked just as good as the ol' rover setup.

You have any comments on the outer memory foams and temperature sensitivity?

[Nova's Ark]

C.I. team driver Andy (CRSMacgyver) ran them and won 2nd place at Crawlapalooza with the memory foam outers. I know my memory foams are temperature sensitive because I ran them last year in my Super. The cut off temp seems to be in the mid 50's before I noticed them stiffening up. I ran some memory foams in the front tires Sunday while testing at 86jeep 's ranch and it was in the low 70's and they performed flawless.

[Szczerba]

Originally Posted by Nova's Ark

C.I. team driver Andy (CRSMacgyver) ran them and won 2nd place at Crawlapalooza with the memory foam outers. I know my memory foams are temperature sensitive because I ran them last year in my Super. The cut off temp seems to be in the mid 50's before I noticed them stiffening up. I ran some memory foams in the front tires Sunday while testing at 86jeep 's ranch and it was in the low 70's and they performed flawless.

All-righty-then! That is what I was looking for.

These tires/foams have worked on every rock type I have tried them on at local comps. Three different rock types so far. Like I said, i didn't know about the temperature ranges and didn't run em that day, I knew the DD's/rovers would work.
They will not be leaving my hands anytime soon. I am going to run them in two weeks.

I have been running them at 12oz total up front and 6 oz total out back. I had them at 10oz total up front and it wasn't enough, the front got pushed around too much.

[Stormin2u]

Originally Posted by Shane_744

I gave up on the Haterades cause I didn't have the right foam in my arsenal (and I was too lazy to get some from Eddie). I couldn't tune them to the way I wanted them.
So, I just got these from Eddie at Nationals. Pretty much ready to go without much tuning other than some front wheel weight.
I do like that the Khaos-Rover's are wider than the Hatreds.

Nice right up Shane I'm gonna have to give those Khaos-Rovers a try.
Still working on the Hateraids just softened them way up and they got much better. I really like the height and they side hills better than anything in my tire box. But I went back to my Haters for comps just more predictable for me.

[Szczerba]

Yehp. The Haterades were an experiment for me. Glad you had some success with em.

I thought about maybe dremelling some vertical grooves on the inside of the x-lock sidewalls to help soften them up but I think I have my set sold. You know like taking a dish cutoff wheel and making like 20 grooves from bead to top of x-lock sidewall. Just have to be careful not to go all the way through.

The Khaos-Rovers are now my local comp club tire of choice, unless I just know they will not work on a certain rock. But I thought that 2 comps ago at our Natural Dam, AR spot and they kicked butt!

[Nova's Ark]

We had our first local comp of our new series this last Saturday. Gavin and I ran a new set of Khaos - Sedona side walled tires. I was able to place 1st and Gavin was fourth. I trimmed my lugs into a custom pattern. I used medium inners narrowed to 2.00 width and memory outers in the front and firm inners narrowed to 2.00 width and memory outers in the back. They were mounted on a 1" wide wheel and the bergs weighed in 5 pounds 14 ounces. The Khaos tire is one of my top three must have tires when I travel for competitions with a Rover and Sedona being the other two. It was consistent and did everything I wanted it to. It did not matter if the tire was wet, dry, or dusty. It kept working.

[Szczerba]

Originally Posted by Nova's Ark

We had our first local comp of our new series this last Saturday. Gavin and I ran a new set of Khaos - Sedona side walled tires. I was able to place 1st and Gavin was fourth. I trimmed my lugs into a custom pattern. I used medium inners narrowed to 2.00 width and memory outers in the front and firm inners narrowed to 2.00 width and memory outers in the back. They were mounted on a 1" wide wheel and the bergs weighed in 5 pounds 14 ounces. The Khaos tire is one of my top three must have tires when I travel for competitions with a Rover and Sedona being the other two. It was consistent and did everything I wanted it to. It did not matter if the tire was wet, dry, or dusty. It kept working.

Great to hear.

They'll be getting a workout this weekend at this new Northwest AR spot.
NWARC July 24th Comp Results

[Nova's Ark]

Originally Posted by Shane_744

Great to hear.

They'll be getting a workout this weekend at this new Northwest AR spot.
NWARC July 24th Comp Results

That location looks awesome. I hate you guys with all the cool natural terrain to crawl. These tires should shine there for sure. I personally like the fact that these tires have no side lugs. With all the little valleys in those pictures, I think you will like not having side lugs.

[eric113]

Originally Posted by Nova's Ark

We had our first local comp of our new series this last Saturday. Gavin and I ran a new set of Khaos - Sedona side walled tires. I was able to place 1st and Gavin was fourth. I trimmed my lugs into a custom pattern. I used medium inners narrowed to 2.00 width and memory outers in the front and firm inners narrowed to 2.00 width and memory outers in the back. They were mounted on a 1" wide wheel and the bergs weighed in 5 pounds 14 ounces. The Khaos tire is one of my top three must have tires when I travel for competitions with a Rover and Sedona being the other two. It was consistent and did everything I wanted it to. It did not matter if the tire was wet, dry, or dusty. It kept working.

That good to hear about the tires. I was very impressed with them on Gavin rig at Nats. They were hooking even wet and muddy.

[Szczerba]

Originally Posted by eric113

That good to hear about the tires. I was very impressed with them on Gavin rig at Nats. They were hooking even wet and muddy.

Gavin beat me at Nat's with these tires! (I didn't own them yet)

I was 53rd and he was 52! I was running rovers.

[4xFord]

Ya they were working really well this past saturday.

[Szczerba]

Well. the Khoas-Rovers helped me to win the Summer/Fall Series of the NWARC Club.
In the 5 comps we had, I ran these tires/foams in the last two comps. I didn't get them til august.

Finished up yesterday with a -37 (-5, -6, -16, -10) on 4 courses. Temp about 73 degrees and we were in the shade all day. The rock was slick in some spots but had just enough rough spots to let the pins grab. Less wheelspeed was the key and using momentum on steep uphills.
Oh yeah my Fx-R lost reverse after the first course, so no reverse for 3 of out 4 courses. Kinda liked not having reverse too.

added 2 more ozs to the fronts after last months comp. The front would get pushed too much.
Wheel/tire/foam setup was 14 oz total for each front and 6 oz total each rear. 5.4lb truck.

[4xFord]

Congrats Shane! That looks like a fun comp spot.

[Nova's Ark]

Congratulations Shane!

Have you thought about trimming the lugs at all? I trimmed mine in a custom pattern and I will try and post a picture of them later.

It's great to know about the temperature and how the memory foam outers reacted. I am keeping track of the temperatures and the memory foam. We ran them Saturday for one battery pack to test them and they performed normal. The temperature that day was low 70's.

[Szczerba]

Originally Posted by 4xFord

Congrats Shane! That looks like a fun comp spot.

Thanks, this was my first time to this spot. They didn't find it til late summer. The picture shown is only about 1/3 to 1/2 of the total area. I did find some petrified wood out there too.

Originally Posted by Nova's Ark

Congratulations Shane!

Have you thought about trimming the lugs at all? I trimmed mine in a custom pattern and I will try and post a picture of them later.

It's great to know about the temperature and how the memory foam outers reacted. I am keeping track of the temperatures and the memory foam. We ran them Saturday for one battery pack to test them and they performed normal. The temperature that day was low 70's.

Thanks. They let me win a comp or two evey now and then to keep things even. Someone slipped up and let me win the whole summer/fall series .

I saw your 1.9 pin cutting patterns. Competitive crawling season is winding down for AR, so i'll have some time to cut them up. I might have missed it but what are you using to cut the pins? side cutters or some curved sisscors?
The pins on these are starting to show a tad bit of wear on the leading edges. I just rotate them every now and then.

[Nova's Ark]

Originally Posted by Shane_744

I saw your 1.9 pin cutting patterns. Competitive crawling season is winding down for AR, so i'll have some time to cut them up. I might have missed it but what are you using to cut the pins? side cutters or some curved sisscors?
The pins on these are starting to show a tad bit of wear on the leading edges. I just rotate them every now and then.

I use curved body scissors to remove the lugs on my tires. I don't think I trimmed the inside bead off your tires so if you get time, pull the tires off and remove that Khaos truggy bead. It will help soften the tire up a little more.

The set Gavin and I are currently sharing have not shown any wear yet. I'm hoping they will hook even better as they wear.