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Old 10-03-2015, 06:30 PM   #1
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I added a set of Axial 1.9 BFG Krawler tired to my gmade sawback and the axial foams are entirely too soft for the truck. I didn't measure the truck but I'm saying its at least 6-7lb range maybe a little more once I add a driver and some scale accessories. Anyways the tires do nothing but fold under the wheel as soon as I drive the truck, right now the truck is sitting because of how bad the tire foams are at supporting the truck and I'm in no position to see my new five lug wagon wheels being destroyed because there is no support to protect them. So I've called crawler innovations three times and left messages with my return info but haven't gotten a call back in two weeks, right now I'm confused on to what foam insert to get and hopefully you guys can help me. I live in south jersey and drive on mostly woods trails, grainy sand, and occasionally shallow mud. I'm thinking about the deuces wild cwr-3008 foam but I'm not sure if the height is good enough for the Krawler tires now what density they are?
My second choice is the lil nova cwr-2030 in firm density. Problem is I'm not sure if they will be too large because it stats 4.7-5" tire range and Krawler are 4.7" so the foams might stuff the tire too much. If it will I'll have to go with the cwr-2020 in firm cuz the are for 4.3-4.625" tires??? Any input would be greatly appreciated so I can get some proper foams ordered so I can drive my truck again
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Old 10-03-2015, 08:34 PM   #2
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You don't want any dead space between the tire and foam so I go with the 4.7-5 inch foams in a medium outer. Your truck doesn't weigh enough to need firm outers unless that's your preference. If you want some tire deflection I'd go with the mediums. JMO
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Old 10-03-2015, 09:51 PM   #3
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Anything stiffer than stock axial foams. I run both double deuces and deuces wild on 2 different sets and have success. If you run in the wet get the DW.
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Old 10-04-2015, 08:30 AM   #4
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Thanks for the input guys. Like I said j just had proline TSL on the sawback for two months with the stock TSL foam and the tire was perfect for side hulking etc. the sidewalk bulged but never rolled over and it did support the truck okish. If the medium CI foams will do the same or slightly better I'll get them, if not I'll go firm?
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Old 10-05-2015, 05:17 PM   #5
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Got an email today from Eddie and was suggested to buy the cwr-2020 lil nova in whatever density I'd prefer... So now I'm conflicted on that foam because it's .05 too short for my Krawlers on paper but it's so minimal it most likely will do nothing but I'm still lost on the density? I know my sawback isn't super heavy but I'm still leaning towards firm foams?
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Old 10-08-2015, 06:59 PM   #6
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So I just received my foams from CI and inside is a paper saying you have to drill three to four 2mm holes into your wheels so the foams can flex properly. That's ok since I don't run in water rarely but do I really have too?
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Old 10-08-2015, 07:04 PM   #7
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So I just received my foams from CI and inside is a paper saying you have to drill three to four 2mm holes into your wheels so the foams can flex properly. That's ok since I don't run in water rarely but do I really have too?
All CI Double Deuce (Dual stage) foams were designed to work with vented tires. It's not mandatory but the foam will not function 100% as designed with a sealed tire setup. Each person's rig and crawling style is different so you can ultimately do what you want. Try them sealed up and see how it crawls, if you like it, leave it, if not, punch some holes in the tires.
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Old 10-10-2015, 07:15 AM   #8
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Yea brand new wagon wheels and brand new tires at what $120 dollars..not ready to think about drilling holes in either of them. But I'll see how it yes with no holes for a while and I'll go from there. Thank you for the input
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Old 10-10-2015, 04:28 PM   #9
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After trying many different foams and CI foams, i prefer the CI DW foams for all my tires, punch few small holes in tires to vent, don't drill the wheels ( I used to do this).
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Old 10-26-2015, 02:33 PM   #10
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Cwr-2020 foams in firm even though they list shorter than the tire are WAY larger than the tire. Literally had to lube them suckers to get them stuffed into the tire, the inner foam is holding 90% of the tire up. The outter foam is there just for a little "flex" it seems to me? Only ran it in the living room and its nice that the sidewall isnt folding under itself. Also couldnt make myself drill holes in my brand new wheels and tires so ill see how it goes
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Old 10-27-2015, 11:57 AM   #11
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Put a couple rubber bands around your tire when you mount them. It will keep the ballooning to a minimum and help the foam flex. I do this and it works wonders.
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Old 11-01-2015, 11:47 AM   #12
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With my XL Swampys, I run the Deuces Wild foams. I have a dead space, tires are vented. This combo flat out works for everything I've thrown at it, no matter the terrain or conditions. I modified my foams slightly to soften them up, and they are awesome.
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