Compromise Wood & Rock 1.9 Tire???
 

Hi folks. Just started into the Crawler side of the hobby and am modding-up a couple 'mini-1/16' for indoor rock and wood structure use.

I would appreciate hearing (reading) your opinions on which 1.9 size tire is the best compromise for wood & rock exclusively???

Would like to stay in an O.D. range of 4.19" - 4.3".

Thanks for your comments.8)

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Proline TSL Super Swampers. Those and the Hyrax are the best all around tires you'll find.

EDIT: I just remembered they are now making Hyrax in 4.19". I'd choose them slightly above the TSLs for best all around tire.

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indoor rock and wood structure use, I'd lean toward the RC4WD Goodyear MTR in the 4.19 size

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+1 for the mtr's

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You guys would choose RC4WD tires over ProLine or Pitbull? :shock:

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I have them all and my 2 tires killing in are krawlers and mtr's. I sold my tsl's, rockbeast and rockbeast xls and growlers. Where I live in the pnw those 2 are killing it. And just the mtr. No other Rc4wd I had completed with proline or pit.

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Thanks for the replies so far.8)

I hadn't even considered those MTR's until your guys mentioned them. The tread design is interesting.

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The 1.1's work awesome and the new compound is soft. It's not sticky like g8 but it's softer and hooks up well all conditions.

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not outdoor in the pacific northwest or in the east where we live, but if I lived in the southwest where it was arid and dry, or indoor like this guy said, I'd give them a shot absolutely.

For me outside I'll run proline TSLs and rock beast aliens all day... I do want to try the Hyrax around here, I haven't yet and they look like theyd be grabby as all hell.

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I swore by RC4WD IROKs until I tried other brands. Since then I just haven't been happy with the X2 SS compound. RC4WD does now have a newer compound, but it's limited to certain tires.

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I'm not sure whether the compound is infinitely better the stickier it is for certain situations. Obviously on rock, you want it as sticky as you can get it, but much like my experience in the 1:1 wheeling world, sometimes a sticky compound can and will gum up more in sloppy, or even moist and dirty situations, where a normal compound tire will clean with some wheel speed. I'm not experienced enough in the RC world yet to give an honest opinion fully yet.

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I hope I don't have any "sloppy, moist, or dirty" crawling going on in our Family Room 'Rock & Wood Pile' course! If I do, I got a leaky roof on the house!:ror:

After finishing a few basic mods. on the trucks they are crawling so much better than stock form. However, the stock tires are really bad. I will be buying new tires shortly after the Holidays so I appreciate everyone's input.8)

Anyone try these newer V2 Hustler M/TX Super Softs?

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I live in the pnw where it was wet and now snow and the mtr's are killing it! We have a few of us running the larger 4.75 and 2.2s and everyone is really surprised. Myself included. I'm curious why you would not recommend them in the nw when you say you live on the east coast? I'm not a giant Rc4wd tire guy but these are doing really well.

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I prefer larger lug voids, pure and simple

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Same here. I can't think of a situation where this isn't ideal.

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So you must have never held or seen the mtr. The voids are bigger than anything else iv ran on the outside and inner tread. I won't argue with you bc that's why I think these tires work so well.

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So you must have never held or seen the mtr in person. The voids are bigger than anything else iv ran on the outside and inner tread. I won't argue with you bc that's why I think these tires work so well.

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I gotta say, while I have no horse in this race, the MTR does have very large voids...

Witness:

1.9" 4.75" height:

http://www.rc4wd.co.uk/product/Z-T0158-10.jpg

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I wonder why the MTR didn't come as a directional tire with a pair having a 'left' & 'right' side?

Perhaps the associated cost of a second mold is the answer??? I use to machine molds for plastic injection molding.

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Smooth rock like slate, and rocks like sandstones. I crawl a couple places where PBX a/t have some serious gripping power, where the rb xl's just don't have as much.

But that's why we have multiple rigs and tires"thumbsup"

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True. The Growlers are bad ass on dry rock. Everywhere else they are held back by the tight lug spacing.

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Because Goodyear designed them that way. They are not directional specific.

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Ahhh, I see, thank you for that info.

Nonetheless, I wish they were directional. My OCD for symmetry is pretty strong!:ror:

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I do like my growlers on my u4 when I'm crawling it. They don't hop and hold a line when I'm hammering down.

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I was the same way with the bfg kr2 side lugs! Lol

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If youre familiar with the physics of a tire, when running 1:1 beadlocks or even our RC, you run with little to no air pressure. When you get some wheel speed going, the tire deforms and only the very center of the tread really touches, that is where the MTR has tight lug spacing and others have a more open design. So, for a wet area where wheel speed is important, the outside lugs dont do AS MUCH, now they will still use side bite when you're stuck, but your main area of grip is the dead center of the tread.

hence why I said I'd try it inside or where its arid and dry.

This isn't experience from 10th scale RCs talking. This is real world. If you'll see my avatar, I am an avid jeeper. I currently run 40 inch TSL SXIIs. Prior to that, I ran 40 inch MTRs. I can tell you first had during similar circumstances, on the same vehicle, the real world TSLs far out perform the MTRs in EVERY circumstance, with the exception of dry smooth rock, and ice... and of course on road... my jeep beats me to death, I won't lie about it :lmao:

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The more surface area the tires have the better they will do on smooth dry rock and wood think slicks for dragracing siping spacing and cleaning out realy dosent mean anything in rocks and wood if there wet or any loose stuff thats differant a street tire works realy well on rocks also dry wood so a all terrain or a big street tread is what i would look for personaly

The swampers dont do that well were i live most people i see out on the trail have all terains they say the swampers pull to hard in the ruts and dont bit on the rocks i run wranglers they seem to do well for my little dune runner with light rock duty

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A perfectly smooth, dry, and dirt free surface rarely exists in nature at least her on the East Coast.

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This isn't experience from 10th scale RCs talking. This is real world. If you'll see my avatar, I am an avid jeeper. I currently run 40 inch TSL SXIIs. Prior to that, I ran 40 inch MTRs. I can tell you first had during similar circumstances, on the same vehicle, the real world TSLs far out perform the MTRs in EVERY circumstance, with the exception of dry smooth rock, and ice... and of course on road... my jeep beats me to death, I won't lie about it :lmao:[/QUOTE]
I have wheeled for 30 year. I run 40in nitto mud grapplers on my yj with tons at 4psi on the trail. Before that I ran 42in red label mtrs. And I agree with you, But the scaled mtr is really space out even in the center. I think we agree on everything except I have the mtr's and run them and they are way better than I ever expected. It's wet and snow here now and they are shining above everything else. I'm not trying to push the tire. I'm not a fan boy. Like I said my other tire that's doing awesome is the bfg proline krawler. On my rigs with my style driving those 2 tires are doing the best for me. That's all.

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like!:shock:"thumbsup"

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Watched a GCM/SBG YouTube vid where he was seriously gleeking over the 4.19" MTR, loved everything about them, mentioned their stickiness especially.

He'd only tried them out because of multiple recommendations from other scale enthusiasts.

Was showing the serious ribbing inside the tire that stabilizes the tread and sidewall, and also mentioned that the foam was white and of better stiffness than the usual grey RC4WD included foam.

I'm reasonably certain that when I upgrade from stock wheels & tires on the K10 Ascender I'm trying these myself, my terrain is quite dry and rocky.

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Is this the video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0kaQY2R0tE

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True but indoors is not in nature

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Yep, that's the one...

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MTR's 4.19 back in-stock at AMain.