Vanquish is on Fire!

[calcagno45]

Had these wheels been out 2 weeks ago, I would have snatched up 3 pairs. Instead went CI 6bolts. Are there other plastic headlock options available with the adjustable hub design? Not that I saw. Those Axial and Gmade plastic beadlocks are all fixed hex.

As for the price of the shocks, I was expecting $39.99 when I first saw them. However Proline shocks are $50 a pair as well.

[Duuuuuuuude]

Originally Posted by JatoTheRipper

A lot of the VP fans early on said it's crap if it's not made in America. Remember those funny debates?

Oh yes.

Originally Posted by JatoTheRipper

Proline, Kyosho, etc. have amazing shocks and amazing customer service. Vanquish is making it so they have a lot to live up to with these shocks with their pricing.

Shocks are like no other thing IMO. They're either good or they are junk. You better be sure you aren't bringing the junk.

[durok]

BTW - I have a sweet set of 2.2 plastic (Delrin) beadlocks... and also a set of 4 aluminum outer rings to swap out... various adjustable hub sizes available and you can run them inside out for different offset...
(not cheap, though!)

[Crawler505]

I put on my set last night. I really like them. They are very smooth and the look and feel very well made. Can’t wait to test them out. Well done VP!!!



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[LSXGMC]

Those do look sharp!

[BDR]

$50 a pair for shocks made in China......think i will stick with AE or Velvets for that sort of coin

Plastic wheels, dunno don't care, not run a plastic wheel for a decade wont be running them now either

I am sure the nutswingers will be lining up though

[JatoTheRipper]

Originally Posted by Crawler505

I put on my set last night. I really like them. They are very smooth and the look and feel very well made. Can’t wait to test them out. Well done VP!!!



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They look good. What's the OD of the shock body since Vanquish isn't telling?

I hope they offer them in other colors at some point.

[redemon]

I have some Scalers that will be here monday.
Will be trying them out after I use the TRX4 ones I have now.

[calcagno45]

Originally Posted by JatoTheRipper

They look good. What's the OD of the shock body since Vanquish isn't telling?

I hope they offer them in other colors at some point.

Pretty sure Josh said it was a 7mm bore. Listen in at the 40 second mark on this video.

[Ditchrat]

Originally Posted by JatoTheRipper

Well now, things made in Asia can be quality?! You don't say. I've known that for a while. A lot of the VP fans early on said it's crap if it's not made in America. Remember those funny debates?

That wasn't all that long ago in the Clone wheel thread.

As I see it the current situation is the chief justification is US designed, overseas manufactured make this ok. Well clone wheels are US designed but overseas manufactured, so they now must no longer be crap.

Personally I don't think their customer service justifies the current pricing on a foreign produced part.

For those of you that have never dealt with products overseas here is what often happens. A product is spec'd out and the manufacture does a wonderful job producing it at your spec's. Your happy your customers are happy. As time goes by the manufacture starts looking to increase there margins, they start changing little thing. Things like the type of glue or the quality of the metal or plastic.

The product still look the same, but little by little the spec is changed. The result is sometimes not immediately noticeable and is undetectable until sometime down the road failure occur. The once dependable brand becomes tarnished.

When this Incision line was launch it was pretty clear to me that it was a business decision to us the VP brand power to appeal to a different market and at the same time separate the two brands.

By doing this they can still produce the high quality, high priced American made line of products, but capture low price point markets without damaging the premium brand.

Otherwise why even bother have separate brands.

Anyone who thinks that the quality of Incision will remain the same as VP hasn't though this through.

Think of it this way, all the American stuff gets handle by company staff concerned about QC/QA. The Incision stuff is either coming in bulk and being assembled in the USA, or already package.

Either option either reduces the amount or eliminates although the opportunity to visually inspect the product.

[imthatguy]

Originally Posted by BDR

$50 a pair for shocks made in China......think i will stick with AE or Velvets for that sort of coin

Plastic wheels, dunno don't care, not run a plastic wheel for a decade wont be running them now either

I am sure the nutswingers will be lining up though

Taiwan is not China.

[JatoTheRipper]

Originally Posted by imthatguy

Taiwan is not China.

I continue to see that argument on this site and it's silly.

1. Both are outsourced suppliers.
2. Both will produce products to the quality you pay for. Is everything from Taiwan high quality? Of course not. Will China produce crap? Sure. But China can and does produce high quality products. The iPhone, which most consider the flagship smartphone, mostly comes from China.
3. Modern day China isn't what it was 5 or 10 years ago.
4. It's up to the customer, in this case Vanquish, to keep an eye on the quality control of the outsourced supplier.

[imthatguy]

Originally Posted by JatoTheRipper

I continue to see that argument on this site and it's silly.

1. Both are outsourced suppliers.
2. Both will produce products to the quality you pay for. Is everything from Taiwan high quality? Of course not. Will China produce crap? Sure. But China can and does produce high quality products. The iPhone, which most consider the flagship smartphone, mostly comes from China.
3. Modern day China isn't what it was 5 or 10 years ago.
4. It's up to the customer, in this case Vanquish, to keep an eye on the quality control of the outsourced supplier.

I'm not arguing. I'm correcting someone who thinks Taiwan is the same as China. It's not, especially to anyone from Taiwan.

[BDR]

Originally Posted by imthatguy

Taiwan is not China.

Depends on what you think of the PRC or ROC

I know what you are saying, BUT Taiwan will happily build good or bad parts same as mainland China will

Still look like yumcha shocks too me, i am sure give it a week or two and we will see them on the usual sites like banggood or Alibaba

As for VP's customer service.......you joking yeah