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Old 04-20-2022, 06:37 PM   #1
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Default Need help - trailer tire ideas

So I've built a car hauler trailer and used some 1.9 tires for sizing. Jebster's gooseneck car hauler

Now I'm realizing the tires are too soft. It isn't just a compression issue because I know I could take care of that with a very firm foam. The rubber is too tacky so when I make a tight turn they are twisting a lot vs having a little slip.

So, does any have ideas for tires that are more for the street and are a hard rubber compound? I would also like to keep a similar size (110mm). If I can use my 1.9 beadlocks that would be ideal but that I'm flexible on.

I've been search but nothing seems to have popped up yet.

All advise welcome.
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Old 04-20-2022, 09:19 PM   #2
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Have you looked into touring car tires? May find some scale type tread patterns, plus a shorter height.
These are Protoform tires. Listed at 64mm in height.


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Old 04-21-2022, 03:38 AM   #3
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I had a similar project awhile back that I haven't dug out for awhile but I used a set of topcad tires meant for tamiya tractor trailer as they are very stiff sidewall. They are stiff but can be stretched onto the 1.9 wheels without looking weird as long as wheels arent too wide. Only thing is they might be a bit short for you. Reason I dropped idea was for me the 1.9 wheels looked too small (1\6-1\7th scale tow rig) but I picked up a set of 2.2 front buggy wheels that look very similar to trailer wheel so I might start back on project after trimming tires to fit 2.2.

Only stiffer tire I can think of near that height would be the firmer compound SC tires that the slash comes with (not the R part number soft compounds) but then you have opposite problem I had where wheel will look too big with that 2.2 outer rim.
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Old 04-21-2022, 05:13 AM   #4
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Tamiya BFG's.... rock hard, about 90mm tall. Perfect trailer tire. The highlift tires would work good too, they are a bit taller.

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Old 04-21-2022, 07:29 AM   #5
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i like the tamiya tire the cc01 came with a street tread tire instead of the bfg tread pattern but i was thinking of the slash shortcourse tires
thats what i run on my trailer they look fine in my opinion but the trailer looks like carp so
anyway
https://www.ebay.com/itm/TRAXAS-Slas...-127632-2357-0
i was able to press fit a bearing in to the hex and in to the recesed space were the wheel nut goes and they work really good


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Old 04-21-2022, 06:40 PM   #6
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I appreciate all the inputs. I was looking at touring tires because of the short sidewalls but they just don't came in a large enough sizes.

The tamiya highlift tires seem promising. Size is close, 1.9 wheels would be perfect and if the rubber compound is hard that is what I need.
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Old 04-21-2022, 06:45 PM   #7
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Its helpful if the wheels can rotate independently. Same idea as an open diff vs locked. Just throwing that out there, not sure how you built it. EDIT: nevermind I see how you built it now lol
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Old 04-21-2022, 07:08 PM   #8
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Find a set of Pull Offs from the MB 1943 Wyllys Scalers jeep.

Those would fit a trailer GREAT.
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Old 04-22-2022, 01:57 AM   #9
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Tamiya BFG's.... rock hard, about 90mm tall. Perfect trailer tire. The highlift tires would work good too, they are a bit taller.
It's been years since I had a set of the highlift tires but I keep thinking they were just a touch softer than the BFG cc01 tires. I have the BFG's and can confirm they are hard compound, never had a set of the military goodyear looking cc01's but I guess thats another option. I wonder how firm the HG knockoffs of each are too.
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Old 04-22-2022, 06:50 PM   #10
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They were fairly firm. not hard, but pretty firm. Not as firm as Older RedCat foams in the winter, but close. lol
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Old 04-29-2022, 05:47 PM   #11
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Decided to try out the Tamiya high lift tires. The are pretty hard which is good. The size is close enough to work, especially after I stuff them with some very firm foam.
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Old 04-29-2022, 05:55 PM   #12
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To firm up a set of tires I have been thinking about filling a set with silicone and letting them dry for couple days outside, then trim excess off and force onto wheels. I think that would work but not real sure.
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Old 04-29-2022, 07:31 PM   #13
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I have a roll of automotive weather-stripping - it's self-adhesive and very firm closed cell foam. I have wrapped a set of aluminum beadlocks with it and then crammed the stock foam in the remaining space, on a set of 2.2 wheels and then installed the old RC4WD Dune T/A 2.2 tires on them, made them nice and firm. Used them for parking lot bashing on a TRX-4 - pretty much wore all the tread off in a couple packs!
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Old 04-29-2022, 08:07 PM   #14
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I use dense foam work mats. Have a jig to cut circles out on a bandsaw. Glue two layers together to get the right width and use a sander to round edges.
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Old 04-30-2022, 08:47 PM   #15
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Tamiya Grasshopper front wheels
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Old 05-08-2022, 04:54 PM   #16
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I'm really happy how these turned out. Stuffed them with my homemade foams and they are very stiff now. Almost like a solid rubber tire. They are a little arched at contact patch which is perfect when doing a tight turn. Going to make another set of these for my other trailer. jebster's trailer

If you were curious about how I make the foams I have a couple pics below. Use a jig to cut circles out of the foam mat using my bandsaw. Just drill a small hole in the mat then slide that onto the long screw on my spacing jig. After that use a hole saw bit to cut the center out. Takes about 10 minutes to cut all the foams I need with this setup. Bigger challenge was getting it into those hard rubber tires!
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Old 05-10-2022, 09:16 AM   #17
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Any reason why you are choosing an off road tread format over a street friendly format like street fighters?
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Old 05-10-2022, 01:01 PM   #18
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Any reason why you are choosing an off road tread format over a street friendly format like street fighters?
A couple. I wanted to be able to use beadlock rims that match the row rig. It also needed to be tall enough, which many street tires are not. And I needed a hard compound to prevent too much grip when the trailer is turning tight. Lastly and related to the grip I didn't want a wide tire.

I looked for quite awhile and didn't come up with many options.
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Old 05-10-2022, 02:46 PM   #19
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That's pretty cool - great work on the foams!
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Old 05-10-2022, 04:37 PM   #20
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That's pretty cool - great work on the foams!
Thanks. The foams are very cheap this way. Do this for other tires, like ones I put on my tonka dump truck.

Hardest part is stuffing dense foam in hard rubber tires. Hands were hurting!
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