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Old 01-12-2006, 06:56 PM   #1
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hey guys will this work for making roll cages? i dont want to spend alot of money buying a torch!

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Old 01-12-2006, 08:33 PM   #2
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Nope. You'll have to get it a lot hotter than that is capable of. Are you going to braze it or silver solder it?
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the melting point of the brazing rod is like 1300 degrees, maybe less. That one gets to 2000, so it should work..but why buy that. Just go to home depot and get the actual one everyone uses :? just a basic mapp torch

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the melting point of the brazing rod is like 1300 degrees, maybe less. That one gets to 2000, so it should work..but why buy that. Just go to home depot and get the actual one everyone uses :? just a basic mapp torch

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I own a few butane torches and have tried to melt brazing rod with no success. Even if you could actually get the rod to melt the area it heats is very small so it might melt the rod but the tubes you want to connect might not get hot enough. MAPP is the way to go but I like the MAPP/OXY kit. more heat than you need and a fine flame.
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Old 01-13-2006, 12:39 PM   #5
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i dont know much about this but all i need to do is get it hot enough so i can bend 3/16 line, cant i just go buy a solder'er and use tht?

twistedCreations what is it called? tht u said i should get at Home Depot?

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Old 01-13-2006, 01:59 PM   #6
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all i need to do is get it hot enough so i can bend it,
What exactly are you using that you need to heat up just to be able to bend it?
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I own a few butane torches and have tried to melt brazing rod with no success. Even if you could actually get the rod to melt the area it heats is very small so it might melt the rod but the tubes you want to connect might not get hot enough. MAPP is the way to go but I like the MAPP/OXY kit. more heat than you need and a fine flame.
It's not "actual" brazing rod. It is Safety silv. Regular brazing rod ( like what ya get at Home Depot) will not work. You will melt the tubing before that gets hot enough. You can see the brazing rod in the picture





Traxxas- Yes I got it from Homedepot.. Just ask someone for a Propane torch. Then you just need to get a Mapp bottle. Or you can just buy the torch tip and then the bottle. What exactly are you bending?? Only time I have ever needed heat to bend something, is when I had a very small radius and had to bend tubing by hand and it was a custom bend. Any other time my brakeline bender will bend it, even 1/4" solid rod
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What exactly are you using that you need to heat up just to be able to bend it?

Wearing a purse, perhaps?
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Old 01-13-2006, 03:46 PM   #9
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well actually i prbly not do much bending just soldering it together, i plan to make custom roll cages so wht will i need for that?
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Old 01-15-2006, 08:10 PM   #10
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soo if i get this it will work? http://www.homedepot.com/prel80/HDUS...glo.0&MID=9876
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Your link goes nowhere.

You need to clearly explain what you are trying to accomplish here for anyone to help you. What material are you using? Are you looking at brazing or welding the material? Spell it all out for us. Better yet, do some searching around the forums here for tuber builds, the use of brakeline, and MAPP Gas. Odds are, most of your questions have already been answered multiple times.
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ooh yeah most of my answers have been answered biatch (robb)


anywase had to get tht out .... hopefully this link wrks for you guys (tht like to take the time to help someone trying to learn how to do this stuff like twistedcreations)
http://www.homedepot.com/prel80HDUS/...rchResults.jsp
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Old 01-16-2006, 06:04 PM   #13
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it is called Bernz-O-Matic
Brass Utility Propane Torch
i think this is the one twisted creations was talking abt cuz there is only like 2 they sell there i need it for soldering isnt it the same thing as brazing?
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You have six posts in this thread, and have yet to explain what you are trying to accomplish, other than "make roll cages." You can make roll cages out of drink straws if you want.



Good Luck! Maybe some others here can read your mind better than I can.
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You have six posts in this thread, and have yet to explain what you are trying to accomplish, other than "make roll cages." You can make roll cages out of drink straws if you want.



Good Luck! Maybe some others here can read your mind better than I can.
hmmm i think you just explained it ha uh yeah whts rong with you? umm OBVIOUSELY I AM TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT I NEED TO MAKE ROLL CAGES!
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Old 01-17-2006, 02:07 PM   #16
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Mapp torch, 3/16", 1/4" brakeline or stainless tube, tubing bender.

Really though take some time to look around all the information is here.

Rollcage for what????? if you're plannin on making a rollcage for something other than a crawler you're wasting your time.
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Old 01-18-2006, 05:49 PM   #17
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ill just prbly make roll cages for my Jato and Savage and if i get good at makin roll cages for them i mite think abt selling them and thats only your opinion!

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Old 01-18-2006, 05:57 PM   #18
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I own a jato and a savage too !











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Old 01-21-2006, 04:59 PM   #19
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will this work for heating up 3/16 line? it didnt say how hot this gets..but i looked it up on the home depot site and this is the only one they sell...so will it work for heating up 3/16 brake line to bend it and braze it?
what do you guys use to cut 3/16 line? will a dremel wrk?


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Old 01-21-2006, 06:53 PM   #20
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You do not use heat to bend tubing. You use a tool like this.
A torch like this is easier to use, gets into tight places. Use MAPP gas.
Look at model 19199 in the above link.
Buy a tubing cutter, a good one lasts a life time.

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