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06-13-2011, 06:10 AM | #1 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: KC
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What method do you guys that work in, or own a machine shop use to transfer programs from a central location? I know you can run cables from each CNC machine, but what I am wanting to know is can you store all programs on a laptop, then upload to your CNC via a RS232 cable without any special software? I am trying to talk the owner here to purchase a shop floor control system for that purpose, but he wants to do it the cheap route. Thanks for your help guys! Paul |
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06-16-2011, 02:07 PM | #2 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento
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Using Cimco here. We have every machine wired up to a box that you can switch one cable from to another output. BUT I do use my personal laptop to program and I use a USB to serial adapter made by gearhead. Purchased from FRYS There are alot of variables to this set up. You will have to configure baud rates, handshake, and figure out which null modem you need. Also PC set up is viable as well, you will have to mess with system management settings to match the ones of your DNC. I run matsuura mc-510 with yasnac controller. I also use null modem D25nm-3 (full handshake) Its going to be trial and error and a long time to figure out, but with the internet and machining forums I fgured it out. Good luck on the pain in the arse adventure your gonna have! LOL |
06-16-2011, 05:27 PM | #3 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2008 Location: Baltimore
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Don't feel too bad if your bossman won't spring for the control system. At my last job we manufactured fan reversers for Pratt & Whittney jet engines, we were owned by G.E. so you would think that we had the latest and greatest of everything, right? WRONG! We got all of our programs delivered to us on a 3 1/2" floppy disc!! There wasn't a single CNC machine in the whole factory that ran on a CD drive.
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06-28-2011, 11:30 PM | #4 |
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At the machine shop class I am in we use a desktop hooked up to an old Fadal mill with an RS232 cable... draw the part in Gibbs, type in "TA,1" on the Fadal, and send the posted program to the machine That said... sometimes the complexity of something like that can make for more issues than help. With my Sherline mill, I would transfer the programs from my desktop {in my bedroom} to the mill via a flash drive... I then loaded the program and ran. My question is how long/hard is it to transfer a program via a flash drive or floppy... in my experience it doesn't take that long to do vs. setting a whole big computer system |
06-29-2011, 09:44 AM | #5 | |
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you have one switch box that the pcs feed into and with that you select which pc you are sending from, the first switch box feeds into another switch box that selects the machine to send to. it pretty easy and inexpensive to set up. also we have used 2 or 3 different dnc setups. so far the best price/value/service has been refresh your memory the pc dnc plus system. very cool guys, no yearly support charges. one fee for software and it does everything we need to do as far as dnc, spoon feeding, data collection, and cycle time analysis. cost was about $3500 http://rym.com/ Last edited by tom@vp; 06-29-2011 at 09:59 AM. | |
06-29-2011, 02:45 PM | #6 | |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Not here
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What he said. This is what we use. Quote:
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07-05-2011, 06:57 AM | #7 | |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: 07456 N. NJ USofA
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We also ran the CMM into the PC as well. Most of our work was aluminum, the owner ran the speeds so high it sounded more like a wood shop than a machine shop cutting metal. | |
07-08-2011, 11:51 AM | #8 | |
Got Worms? Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Golden, CO
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But i'm sure this doesn't apply to older cnc's | |
07-08-2011, 07:14 PM | #9 | |
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That said the switch idea looks really smart for sending stuff around from a central point | |
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