harris safety-silv 56

[ratmloud]

where are you guys buying safety-silv 56? I am in MA. and cannot find it locally!?!?!

[SR5Dave]

Originally Posted by ratmloud

where are you guys buying safety-silv 56? I am in MA. and cannot find it locally!?!?!

Welding supply store, or search on Http://www.froogle.com

[Dirtgypsy]

I have some that I am not using. Started to but only used about 1 inch off the roll. $10 shipped and it is yours. hardemanac@comcast.net

[Fishmaxx]

How many "troy oz" did you start with?

[Fishmaxx]

Originally Posted by ratmloud

where are you guys buying safety-silv 56? I am in MA. and cannot find it locally!?!?!

Look up the Harris Company on the internet, call them. They will give you a list of suppliers in your area.


I have yet to find a on-line supplier

[cotharyus]

Check your phone book for a US Airgas store. They are a Harris dealer, and have stores all over the country. They also have a pretty fair web site if you can't find anything local.

[SR5Dave]

Originally Posted by Fishmaxx

I have yet to find a on-line supplier

?

Originally Posted by SR5Dave

or search on Http://www.froogle.com

http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=...ff&sa=N&tab=wf

[Dirtgypsy]

Originally Posted by Fishmaxx

How many "troy oz" did you start with?

Fishmaxx, I started with 1t.o. (31g) roll. It was $14 or $15 bucks at the welding shop here in town. Shoot me an e-mail if you want it.

hardemanac@comcast.net

[Fishmaxx]

Its a fair price, and it would save me a few bucks. I can get it locally at 2-3 places.

I will give someone else a chance that has a harder time getting it. If no else wants it I may get it in a week or two.

I really want the 45T. It has a lower melting point than the regular 45

[Dirtgypsy]

Sounds good fishmax. I found that the melting point on this (1150) is too low for my torch (1850) so it is a bit difficult for me to work with. I found that flux coated brass brazing rod seems to work the best.

I do have a smaller torch that doesn't put out as much heat so I may give it another try.

[Fishmaxx]

Alloy>>>>>>>>>>>>Melting Range
-------------------------Solidus.....Liquidus
Safety-Silv 56............1145.........1200
Safety-Silv 40............1150.........1350
Safety-Silv 45............1250.........1370
Safety-Silv 45T..........1195.........1265
Safety-Silv 25............1265.........1430


I have been using the 45 which has a higher temp.

Maybe I should try some 56

I just bought 3 oz of 45. I will trade you a sample of 45 for some 56.

[kwellst]

salesman asked what diameter he said 1/16th was big enoug but i think 1tr oz will go quickly. what diameter is everyone using?

[rocpede]

i use harris 45 and the size that use is 1/16" and it works fine for me.

[bigred]

Its great that you newbies search, and this is proof that some do right here, but you have to realize that sometimes you are reading old threads..............Please check the date of the thread before you post.......

[TwistedCreations]

Red- I would rather them bring back an old post to keep all the info in one post, than to have 1,000 posts asking the same question.

[kwellst]

my apology bigred, i saw this in the guide first, and after i posted (like a moron) i searched and found the answer i was looking for. again my apologies

[bigred]

Originally Posted by TwistedCreations

Red- I would rather them bring back an old post to keep all the info in one post, than to have 1,000 posts asking the same question.

very true. OK

no need to apologize Kwellst, my apology goes to you

[kwellst]

about how many welds can you get with 1 tr. oz of the silv solder?? im thinking about making a modified Aubie G2 frame so i cam mount an e-maxx trans assy.

[rerock]

It doesn't take much per joint. I'd say a little under 1/2" of 1/16 per joint. Anymore and it likes to pool up on the bottom side of the joint. I think I could build two+ TLT comp chassis with a 1oz roll. One whole roll would get you a chassis so beef cake that you could prolly drive your truck over it and not bend it.


Try this once. Take tow short pieces of brake line and fishmouth one end. Butt then together at a right angle and braze it up. Let it cool and try to pull it apart like a wishbone. That'll tell you how strong the stuff is. I show that to people and it actually bends the brake line instead of breaking the joint! That test right there sold me on the stuff. Before I was using this other Harris solder that was like $7.50/oz, but you could pull it apart.

[Rat1]

I have done some searches and some asking in my welding supply stores and they are tellign me that Safety Silv 56 is actually a soldering and not brazing. I have searched all over for brazing supplies and all I can find for actual brazing is regular copper colored brazing rod or flux coated brazing rod. Heck for all that matters a coat hanger will do the same thing.

So is it actual brazing or soldering?

I just got a Mapp and Oxy setup and for actual brazing I need to use the oxy to get things hot enough to actually braze. No way can I get things actually hot enough to actually braze just using Mapp. Now soldering is a different story.