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Old 01-05-2012, 05:47 PM   #1
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Default I want to replicate Axial's hex driver set with EDS, but have questions

I went to Axial's website and looked at their hex driver set.

Metric Hex Driver Set

Included are:

AX20015 1.5MM HEX DRIVER
AX20016 2.0MM HEX DRIVER
AX20018 2.5MM BALL END HEX DRIVER
AX20020 3.0MM BALL END HEX DRIVER
AX20021 2.0MM BALL END HEX DRIVER


Why are the 2.5MM, 3.0MM, and 2.0MM ball ended?

Should I copy the list exactly as Axial's set, regular hex and ball end?

Or, should I just buy the non-ball ended hexes like this set?

EDS RACING PRODUCTS ONLINE STORE - RC TOOLS AND ACCESSORIES - EDS Allen Wrench Set - Metric -4 pcs. - (Powered by CubeCart)

I'm leaning towards copying the Axial set exactly as listed because I own quite a few of their kits, but would like some input from members before I place an order at EDS.


Thanks in advance.
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Old 01-05-2012, 06:11 PM   #2
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it maybe the the smaller hex's would not be too strong if ball ended. snap one of those off in a screw head and it could be real hassle to sort out
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Old 01-05-2012, 06:17 PM   #3
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the nice thing about the ball ends is you dont have to be directly straight putting the tool into the hex screw you can have the tool angled some and still be effective with out stripping it out
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It would be nice to have both ball and standard, but I have never needed a 3mm that I can remember. But I have used standard sizes. I would get a set of metric and standard before I doubled up on metric.
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Only time I can remember using the 3mm is on 1/5, 1/8, & my summit trans.

I'd get these drivers

1.5mm
2.0mm
2.5mm
2.0mm ball end
2.5mm ball end
.050"

Extra 1.5mm & .050 tips

If you can afford it, just get the 30 piece set.
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Old 01-07-2012, 07:03 AM   #6
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In my tool box I have both balled end and straight. if any torqueing needs to be done I use the straight and if on an angle use the balled end. I have learned my leason on breaking the balled ends off in a screw.
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I like these. If I had a 3.0mm it would end up at work as it is one of my most used tools. The rest would stay at home for R/Cs
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Why are "RC" tools so expennsive? Cant you just buys the sizes you need at the hardware store?
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Why are "RC" tools so expennsive? Cant you just buys the sizes you need at the hardware store?
Because they have brand name on them such as the Axial's and fancy handles. If you don't mind no name on it you can buy them at any hardware or tool store for a set at a price you pay for one.
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Because they have brand name on them such as the Axial's and fancy handles. If you don't mind no name on it you can buy them at any hardware or tool store for a set at a price you pay for one.
Gotcha, fancy Handles and all are nice, but if i can get a recision kit for 6 bucks, thats leaves me alot more money towards mods..LOL
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Gotcha, fancy Handles and all are nice, but if i can get a recision kit for 6 bucks, thats leaves me alot more money towards mods..LOL
Exactly
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Ball ends are basically useless they tend to strip screws more with limited engagement ans they break more.

If you can't get to a screw take sometime and remove a few items to do it right.

I'd recommend:
1.5mm
2.0mm
2.5mm
1/16" (for pinions)
3/32" (for VP hub screws if you use those)
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I can't stand ball ends, they "usually" strip. I'm a firm believer in you get what you pay for except for the Associated 1/4" hex set....complete wast of money (worn out after building my SC104x4).
When the need for force I use straight & then switch to my mini cordless.
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Why are "RC" tools so expennsive? Cant you just buys the sizes you need at the hardware store?
You get what you pay for and once you use a good RC tool set compared to hardware store junk you'll realize what the deal is. RC tools are usually harder. Hardware store stuff is meant for much larger bolts, and softer metal is used. That softer metal in the small sizes wears quite fast. Most of the time the handles are too big and the shanks are too long for most RC needs anyway.

So I have found, just my 2 pennies...
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R/C Tools are not expensive. get into some special industrial tools, you'll think R/C tools are a steel. I have the Duratrax drivers and like them. The tips are HSS and replaceable. Plus a lot of hobby shops stock the drivers and replacement tips.
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Gotcha, fancy Handles and all are nice, but if i can get a recision kit for 6 bucks, thats leaves me alot more money towards mods..LOL
recision?

Go ahead & buy your hardware store junk.

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Ball ends are basically useless they tend to strip screws more with limited engagement ans they break more.
That's because you're doing it wrong.

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I can't stand ball ends, they "usually" strip.
Yup, you too.

I have never broken a ball end, never.

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You get what you pay for and once you use a good RC tool set compared to hardware store junk you'll realize what the deal is. RC tools are usually harder....
Yup.
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R/C Tools are not expensive. get into some special industrial tools, you'll think R/C tools are a steel. I have the Duratrax drivers and like them. The tips are HSS and replaceable. Plus a lot of hobby shops stock the drivers and replacement tips.
I work on / modify a lot of 1:1's and own a lot of quality tools ( SNAP-ON, MATCO ) the statement "you get what you pay for" is true 98% of the time. they cost more but when you use them alot you can tell the difference. so at the cost of quality R/C tools thats nothing compared to a SNAP-ON ratchet i spent $150.00 on.

I am ok with spending a little more money on the quality
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Old 01-21-2012, 02:42 AM   #18
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Mcmaster sells "ball point hex blades" cost $.88 to $1.06 for the sizes we use. I have just taken those and drilled a hole in the center of a 3/8 steel rod and brazed it together to make a T handle driver. Come in different lengths ad I have used mine for the last 7 years only on my second set.


if you strip the ball end, cut it off and now you have a straight driver. Cheap enough to buy a few and really strong
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I was wondering if anyone knows of a set of wrench's and nut driver's that have a full size handle like a regular screwdriver. The Intery set I have now is good but after an hour of turning I'm about done.
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Ball ends are basically useless, they tend to strip screws more with limited engagement and they break more.
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Yes to both, IF you are using ball end driver to "break free" or "torque" fasteners. Ball ends are more for driving fasteners in or out.

I use Bondhaus sets all the time for work/RC, they work great. But IF you read their directions, they state to NOT use the ball end for anything but driving the fasteners.
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