brazing question

[jcsaxial]

I know that the harris saftey silver is the way to go but are there any other choices to go with. More budget friendly?

[Harley]

Not really. You need the high silver content for the best joints. Silver is expensive.

[jcsaxial]

Thata kind of what i thaught. I did find some metal solder at home depot, dont rmember the brand.

[Harley]

Originally Posted by jcsaxial

Thata kind of what i thaught. I did find some metal solder at home depot, dont rmember the brand.

Yeah that's probably not the same stuff. That's likely a high tin version. People have used it but it won't yield a joint anything like the Harris.

[1tonscout]

I bought a roll of Weldcoate Metals 56% 3 troy ounces for $101.00 online. It's strong and looks great

[Harley]

Originally Posted by 1tonscout

I bought a roll of Weldcoate Metals 56% 3 troy ounces for $101.00 online. It's strong and looks great

That sounds about right. Here is where I buy mine most the time.

Lincoln Electric Stay-Silv 56 Brazing Kit-56KPOP at The Home Depot

[jcsaxial]

How far woul 1t.oz go? Ive done some copper plumbing sweatin pipe but not this

[1tonscout]

It depends on fitment of the joints, how many joints, and how good you are.

[mojave450rider]

I have tried a few other types and brands but the Harris 45% is what I use and like the best.

[1tonscout]

how does the 45% compare to the 56%?

[mojave450rider]

I think the 45 flows better.? Especially if you sand the edges to be joined just like in welding. just my opinion tho...i guess im comfortable with the 45. lil cheaper also

[1tonscout]

im going to buy 45% just to see what the difference is

[mojave450rider]

Gidde-up

[1tonscout]

Reminds me of this

[mojave450rider]

LOL thats where I get all my sayings from!

[AX10wannabe]

i use solid rod for my bumpers and stuff so i use the lincoln electric 3/32" flux coated brazing rods from a hardware store.. works just fine for the stuff i do.

[jcsaxial]

Originally Posted by AX10wannabe

i use solid rod for my bumpers and stuff so i use the lincoln electric 3/32" flux coated brazing rods from a hardware store.. works just fine for the stuff i do.

Are they the brass rods? Ive seen them in the store. Do you need to use flux or is there enough on the rod?

[BigSki]

Originally Posted by Harley

Not really. You need the high silver content for the best joints. Silver is expensive.

I fully disagree with you. I use 1/16th inch diameter silicon bronze and anti-borax flux crystals, I've never had a joint fail on anything that I've built.

[hotwheels000]

The above works great, I find it easy to work with and inexpensive. The bronze seams to have a larger heat range window between flowing and solid form. It fills gaps easier so less prep on the joints if you choose.

Much more freindly for a person just learning to braze. I also like the flux in a can VS the precoated rod. You will always have flux on the tip that way. If you are not paying attention with the precoated rods you can burn the flux off of the tip and then the bronze will not flow....

Safety silv is great, just a bit more finicky in prep.....joints look better imo if done properly but an expensive learning curve if you are not proficient in brazing technics.

[Nish]

Originally Posted by BigSki

I fully disagree with you. I use 1/16th inch diameter silicon bronze and anti-borax flux crystals, I've never had a joint fail on anything that I've built.

Originally Posted by hotwheels000

The above works great, I find it easy to work with and inexpensive. The bronze seams to have a larger heat range window between flowing and solid form. It fills gaps easier so less prep on the joints if you choose.

Much more freindly for a person just learning to braze. I also like the flux in a can VS the precoated rod. You will always have flux on the tip that way. If you are not paying attention with the precoated rods you can burn the flux off of the tip and then the bronze will not flow....

Safety silv is great, just a bit more finicky in prep.....joints look better imo if done properly but an expensive learning curve if you are not proficient in brazing technics.

where do you get that stuff from