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Old 04-26-2014, 01:52 PM   #1
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NOTE I TAKE NO RESPONSIBLILTY FOR WHAT COULD HAPPEN TO YOUR VANQUISH RIMS
DO THIS ENTIRELY AT YOUR OWN RISK.

So I started with these I wanted a colour change for my re-painted Range Rover something more subtle.


Disassembled

Washed with Hot Soapy Water make sure you remove any dirt this is a crucial step.

Dried

Your Going to need a Torch and somewhere to heat the rims up.


Heat Slowly THIS IS ALSO IMPORTANT DO NOT RUSH WITH THE HEAT TAKE YOUR TIME.
DO NOT USE THE HOT PART OF THE FLAME!

Colour gradually changing



That'll work there nearly all the same colour.
NOTE THE BRIGHT ONE THIS WAS HEATED TOO QUICKLY

Back Rings Done as well remember HEAT SLOWLY.


Allow to cool DO NOT QUENCH IN COLD WATER allow to cool naturally
Reassembled and the Method Logo still remains


Much Better

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Old 04-26-2014, 01:56 PM   #2
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Science is fun! And cool looking!
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Old 04-26-2014, 01:57 PM   #3
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Science is Brilliant I have no idea how the METHOD Logo remained but it's there on all 5.
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Old 04-26-2014, 02:09 PM   #4
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I have a poop brown VP upper link mount. I thought I was the only one with torched VP anodizing. Well done sir.
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Old 04-26-2014, 02:12 PM   #5
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I wonder what others will come up with, or do you think this happen being they were red. Knowing the outcome. That is one sweet looking ride now. Gold!

Edit: it was before you went gold
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Old 04-26-2014, 05:29 PM   #6
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that was a pretty neat trick and the gold rims look sweet on that ride
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Old 04-27-2014, 07:43 PM   #7
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Looks good, the only downside to heating anodizing is the affective loss of the the bond between the dyes and the metal itself. It usually becomes very prone to flaking or has the orange peel look to it. Not all types will flake but it can happen. The color change is because in most bright color anodizing the dye pigments are usually an organic mix of material and the look comes from them literally just heating up and burning off. Hence the reason when heated super fast its a diff color due to it burning off more molecules in the dye.

As for the logo staying its because its a laser etching which is done at a much higher temp than the torch can get so it would not be affected by the heat. I manufacture a few parts that are heat treated after being laser etched and I've only had a few that were ever affected by the process...

Anyway looks really good especially on that rig..

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Old 04-27-2014, 09:18 PM   #8
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I would absolutely stay away from a torch, clean the hell out of them, then put them in the oven, 500 degrees. They will heat up much slower, and without the uneven direct heat a torch will provide. I bakes many a paintball gun when I had one a color I did not like. You can also boil the parts, and it will release a lot of the dye. They come out with more of an acid washed look. Black turns copper, grey turns to a silver. At lest on my paintball guns.
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Nice. I always thought those would look good in a bronze/gold color...
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I would absolutely stay away from a torch, clean the hell out of them, then put them in the oven, 500 degrees. They will heat up much slower, and without the uneven direct heat a torch will provide. I bakes many a paintball gun when I had one a color I did not like. You can also boil the parts, and it will release a lot of the dye. They come out with more of an acid washed look. Black turns copper, grey turns to a silver. At lest on my paintball guns.

I agree with the baking portion mush more than a torch. I've baked many sets of parts as well from being unhappy with the finish. The only things that's no good is of you go to re anodize them expect a much more dull finish and even more so of a splotchy type effect.

Color will always vary depending on the type/brand of anodizing used but most stay within the same base as the origional color. Just think R-O-Y-G-B-I-V for the bases and you can kind of guage what the outcome wil be depending on the color mixes. The brighter the color starts off the more likely it will maintain a decent type finish. If its a flat color then expect more of a powdery type look and if its a dark color good luck.

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I agree with the baking portion mush more than a torch. I've baked many sets of parts as well from being unhappy with the finish. The only things that's no good is of you go to re anodize them expect a much more dull finish and even more so of a splotchy type effect.

Color will always vary depending on the type/brand of anodizing used but most stay within the same base as the origional color. Just think R-O-Y-G-B-I-V for the bases and you can kind of guage what the outcome wil be depending on the color mixes. The brighter the color starts off the more likely it will maintain a decent type finish. If its a flat color then expect more of a powdery type look and if its a dark color good luck.

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THanks to OP for sharing this tip.

Dan, thanks for the extra input and I agree with oven vs torch.
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Any idea where blue would end up? Lighter blue?
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For a very short heat cycle you can keep it in blue, but the same long term result would be the goldish look above..

A bit of dramatization for you guys just to see what can happen

Here's a few rc4wd blue anodized stand offs I chose real small parts for the quickness to show this.

Beginning blue


Quick heat cycle roughly 45sec - 1min


Longer heat cycle 1 min 30 seconds


with a 2 min heat


And why not 2:30


My point being there is a very fine line between baking the anodizing and ruining it, to destroying a part. Now a very high quality metal and anodizing can give a completely different result but just watch what your doing I'd hate to see anyone ruin a $150+ set or wheels or a chassis etc.

Now does anyone have a few standoffs I can use to mount my shocks,......lol

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There needs to be more bronze/gold wheels.
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There needs to be more bronze/gold wheels.
Bronze yes but gold....oh I can only imagine the rigs we would start seeing.
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Thanks for the info. I've got way too much Tamiya blue. I really prefer bronze/gold tones, like Tamiya used to use.
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those methods look wicked
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Very cool technique thanks for sharing
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You're like McGyver!
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Thats awesome. Interesting to see what the colors change to. Nice work!
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