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maverick67 06-15-2017 03:43 AM

Where to get this type of threadlock?
 
Never seen it mentioned so I'll try here. Does anyone know where to buy the "factory" type threadlock that comes pre-applied to some screws? I remember Traxxas sometimes has it especially on some of their larger m4 screws. It's blue in color and almost looks like it's baked on. And it lasts through quite a few assembly/dis-assemblies. If I can find it, I think it would work really well for wheel nuts.

JatoTheRipper 06-15-2017 07:55 AM

Re: Where to get this type of threadlock?
 
I've wondered this same thing! Thanks for starting the thread. I've wanted to do the same, but I always forget.

big1717 06-15-2017 08:43 AM

Re: Where to get this type of threadlock?
 
https://www.vibra-tite.com/products/...-3-threadmate/

maverick67 06-15-2017 09:06 AM

Re: Where to get this type of threadlock?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by big1717 (Post 5718865)

Have you tried it, how did it work for you?

Now just have to find a seller that will ship internationally. Hey Jato, maybe you can buy some extra and sell some to me! :mrgreen:

JatoTheRipper 06-15-2017 09:17 AM

Re: Where to get this type of threadlock?
 
That stuff is red. That worries me. It's definitely not what Traxxas uses.

I found this stuff. I can't find any pictures of the actual substance though.

https://www.oatey.com/2375079/Product/Hercules-

https://www.hpproducts.com/productim...711_300dpi.jpg

maverick67 06-15-2017 09:56 AM

Re: Where to get this type of threadlock?
 
Hey Jato, the stuff you posted looks more like sealant, not threadlock. As for the Vibratite VC-3, you're right it is red. But I think given the fact that it's marketed as "adjustable, re-usable", my guess is it can probably be dis-assembled. Since you're in the US, why don't you give it a go?

JatoTheRipper 06-15-2017 10:31 AM

Re: Where to get this type of threadlock?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maverick67 (Post 5718891)
Hey Jato, the stuff you posted looks more like sealant, not threadlock. As for the Vibratite VC-3, you're right it is red. But I think given the fact that it's marketed as "adjustable, re-usable", my guess is it can probably be dis-assembled. Since you're in the US, why don't you give it a go?

It does look more like sealant, but it will be interesting to see. It came up on my reusable thread lock search.

This also came up. It looks like a commercial-only product.
Nylok® Blue Nylon Torq-Patch® Tuflok® - Nylok

and this

http://www.longlok.com/s.nl/it.A/id.42696/.f

and this

https://www.ndindustries.com/product...king/nd-patch/

Here's some threadlock tape I've never tried.

http://na.henkel-adhesives.com/indus...=8797952147457

spaceman5280 06-15-2017 01:20 PM

Re: Where to get this type of threadlock?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JatoTheRipper (Post 5718875)
That stuff is red. That worries me. It's definitely not what Traxxas uses.

I found this stuff. I can't find any pictures of the actual substance though.

https://www.oatey.com/2375079/Product/Hercules-

https://www.hpproducts.com/productim...711_300dpi.jpg



Before I was an electrician, I was a pipe fitter/welder and this stuff is for pipe threads and flange fitting gaskets, probably not what you are looking for...


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JatoTheRipper 06-15-2017 01:25 PM

Re: Where to get this type of threadlock?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spaceman5280 (Post 5718964)
Before I was an electrician, I was a pipe fitter/welder and this stuff is for pipe threads and flange fitting gaskets, probably not what you are looking for...


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That's what I was afraid of. Is it like a pipe dope?

spaceman5280 06-15-2017 01:28 PM

Re: Where to get this type of threadlock?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JatoTheRipper (Post 5718966)
That's what I was afraid of. Is it like a pipe dope?



Yeah, it's like Rector Seal and such.


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DrewHammer 07-13-2017 06:41 AM

Re: Where to get this type of threadlock?
 
I use vibra-tite VC-3 in a lot of industrial applications. Despite being red it has the thread locking capabilities of about Loctite 242/blue. It is a pain in that you have to paint the fasteners and let dry prior to assembly. It's also "gummy" compared to most thread lockers and never really fully hardens. It does work EXTREMELY well in high vibration, oily environments so I'm sure it'll work just fine for tiny trucks.

I haven't personally experimented with it on the RC scale yet, mostly because VC-3 has a definite shelf life after the bottle is open. We typically order the 30ml bottles and you're lucky to have the cap off for a total of 20 minutes before it's unusable.

I've looked before and tried to figure out what it is that's applied to the bolts with these patches. I'm thinking it's some kind of nylon that's applied in a heated/liquid form and allowed to dry. You can purchase these fasteners from McMaster if you really want some.

JatoTheRipper 07-13-2017 06:51 AM

Re: Where to get this type of threadlock?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DrewHammer (Post 5727146)
I use vibra-tite VC-3 in a lot of industrial applications. Despite being red it has the thread locking capabilities of about Loctite 242/blue. It is a pain in that you have to paint the fasteners and let dry prior to assembly. It's also "gummy" compared to most thread lockers and never really fully hardens. It does work EXTREMELY well in high vibration, oily environments so I'm sure it'll work just fine for tiny trucks.

I haven't personally experimented with it on the RC scale yet, mostly because VC-3 has a definite shelf life after the bottle is open. We typically order the 30ml bottles and you're lucky to have the cap off for a total of 20 minutes before it's unusable.

I've looked before and tried to figure out what it is that's applied to the bolts with these patches. I'm thinking it's some kind of nylon that's applied in a heated/liquid form and allowed to dry. You can purchase these fasteners from McMaster if you really want some.

I bought some, but haven't used it.

I don't like that it's tacky. I wish it dried like the stuff that came on Traxxas vehicles, etc.

DrewHammer 07-13-2017 11:59 AM

Re: Where to get this type of threadlock?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JatoTheRipper (Post 5727149)
I bought some, but haven't used it.

I don't like that it's tacky. I wish it dried like the stuff that came on Traxxas vehicles, etc.

It's not really tacky per say, stuff won't stick to it after it's "dry". Mostly it's just soft.

The main reason for this and 100% of the reason I use it is, you can't check a set screw or a fastener for torque if you use a thread locker that hardens. Something like Loctite 242 will "break" if you try to torque it and won't effectively prevent the fastener from loosening. Threads and set screw tips deform under use and do need occasional checking when in service. VC-3 allows you to check fastener torque without having to fully remove the fastener, clean, and re-install it.

FWIW, you probably couldn't convince me to use VC-3 on m3 set screws. Everything else it should be great for.

ElChupacabra 07-13-2017 12:08 PM

Re: Where to get this type of threadlock?
 
I use these sticks and love them. Stuff is thick and I just drag a screw across it before installing. No worrying about making a mess.

https://www.amazon.com/Loctite-Quick.../dp/B000132VH6

JatoTheRipper 07-13-2017 12:34 PM

Re: Where to get this type of threadlock?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ElChupacabra (Post 5727254)
I use these sticks and love them. Stuff is thick and I just drag a screw across it before installing. No worrying about making a mess.

https://www.amazon.com/Loctite-Quick.../dp/B000132VH6

Is it anything like the Tamiya thread lock gel?

ElChupacabra 07-13-2017 12:46 PM

Re: Where to get this type of threadlock?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JatoTheRipper (Post 5727259)
Is it anything like the Tamiya thread lock gel?


It's real thick. Way thicker than Tamiya gel.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...638d7a2d9f.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...ac3e9fc4d5.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...d3aabfebb1.jpg



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JatoTheRipper 07-13-2017 12:59 PM

Re: Where to get this type of threadlock?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ElChupacabra (Post 5727264)
It's real thick. Way thicker than Tamiya gel.

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It looks like blue Chapstick! :lmao:

I am going to have to get some to try out...for threadlock.

Sneetches 07-13-2017 01:13 PM

Re: Where to get this type of threadlock?
 
I've been using the Loctite twist gel without issues, but I've wondered about those blue patches myself. Something is different about that concoction because sometimes those screws can be a real pain to get off once you hit it.

Natedog 07-13-2017 04:37 PM

Re: Where to get this type of threadlock?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JatoTheRipper (Post 5718847)
I've wondered this same thing! Thanks for starting the thread. I've wanted to do the same, but I always forget.

Me three lol. "thumbsup"

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElChupacabra (Post 5727254)
I use these sticks and love them. Stuff is thick and I just drag a screw across it before installing. No worrying about making a mess.

https://www.amazon.com/Loctite-Quick.../dp/B000132VH6

I've been using this for several years, great stuff but sometimes still use liquid Blue Loctite, depends on what I'm doing. Good and bad thing is the chapstick version does not wick into areas where you don't want it, this is why I still sometimes use the liquid when I want it to wick into all the crevices. "thumbsup"

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElChupacabra (Post 5727264)
It's real thick. Way thicker than Tamiya gel.

Yes, and wow that's way more than I ever use on a screw, just a dab'll do ya! :lmao:"thumbsup"

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sneetches (Post 5727276)
I've been using the Loctite twist gel without issues, but I've wondered about those blue patches myself. .

X2 "thumbsup"


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