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Double J · 07-30-2007, 03:57 PM

Yeah I know the camera doesn't show detail that much but hey, better than nut-n.

mrpink · 07-30-2007, 07:09 PM

that just confused me more. j/k.

I was thinking of doing something like this, but couldn't find a good way to show it. Maybe I will give it a shot. Having these will help weed out alot of repetitive questions.

A sticky would be great.

badhoopty · 07-30-2007, 08:20 PM

you shouldnt give all your secrets away dude. bad fo' buisness. ;)

the plate you braze on, is it aluminum?

could you lay pieces of brakeline or whatever flat on an aluminum plate and braze them w/o the crap stickin' to the aluminum sheet?

mrpink · 07-30-2007, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badhoopty

you shouldnt give all your secrets away dude. bad fo' buisness. ;)

the plate you braze on, is it aluminum?

could you lay pieces of brakeline or whatever flat on an aluminum plate and braze them w/o the crap stickin' to the aluminum sheet?

Aluminum would melt over time. I use a thick piece of scrap steel (flat stock) to braze little pieces together. When brazing, where ever the flux goes, so goes the braze... dont get any flux on the steel plate and you will not have any issues.

braceysdad · 07-30-2007, 08:48 PM

What torch are you using?

Thorsteenster · 07-30-2007, 08:55 PM

I was thinking of getting a piece of 1/8" steel for a base and using magnets to keep everything situated while brazing.
Good vid!

I dont know how they hold up to heat, but if you have a old or dead hard drive, take it apart, the magnets in those are STRONG!

Double J · 07-31-2007, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by braceysdad

What torch are you using?

This one...
EDIT: dammn that is huge... Let's see if this is smaller

Yeah that's better.

Quote:

Originally Posted by badhoopty

you shouldnt give all your secrets away dude. bad fo' buisness.

the plate you braze on, is it aluminum?

could you lay pieces of brakeline or whatever flat on an aluminum plate and braze them w/o the crap stickin' to the aluminum sheet?

Thanks but there are plenty of people that can't or won't make their own and still hire out.

That is some "scrap" aluminum Diamond plate that I had laying around and works great. But it's starting to show it's age as you can see it's got a slight bend to it. Mostly cause of wrenching down on it. I don't put direct heat on it so it seldom gets real hot.

You can lay pieces of brakeline on a flat aluminum plate and braze to it. The silv will bead up on top of it, if it drips on it for whatever reason. Then you just sweep it away. I just try to stay directly off of it, but sometimes you have to.

I just noticed the background noise. LOL

Double J · 07-31-2007, 09:44 AM

PM question I was asked. Thought it would be of use here.

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dumb question but, does that torch not use oxygen too?

No oxy on it. I do have a set up that has the oxygen but only use it for heavier metal that requires more heat to make it braze. I used the oxy/mapp set up on my Gooseneck cause I'd site there for a long time waiting for the two pieces of 1/2" square tubing to heat up for brazing. The oxy/mapp setup reduced the heating time to just a 1/4 of what it would take for mapp alone.

I use just straight mapp for anything that is under 1/8" solid rod and brake line.

Plus it's cheaper than the oxy/mapp set up.

Hope that helps.

I'm going to copy and paste this in the thread if that allright w/ you. I can see this being asked.

PROTOTYPE · 07-31-2007, 07:51 PM

I know making a tube chassis is not easy , but that was a simple process . thanks for the info and the how to.

braceysdad · 07-31-2007, 07:53 PM

I picked up one of those torches today...

RickSDMF · 07-31-2007, 08:46 PM

smae one ive been using for awhile if yall dont wanna spend the money on a oxy/mapp set up, for thicker gauged stuff that mapp wont work with theres another type of gas called oxyprop. will work with same torch head as mapp gas just allllot hotter.

BOWTIE · 07-31-2007, 08:55 PM

great vid.. could you post a picture of the pieces. like you mentioned before it's not clear in the video but i still picture might help.

Double J · 07-31-2007, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BOWTIE

great vid.. could you post a picture of the pieces. like you mentioned before it's not clear in the video but i still picture might help.

I may have tossed it right after it cooled down. But I can look for it.

MTHead · 07-31-2007, 09:01 PM

Double J,
On a normal build would you have to braze the other side of the joint
or did it flow all the way around??

That was fast for what i expected..

Very, very informative!! Thanks

Double J · 08-01-2007, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTHead

Double J,
On a normal build would you have to braze the other side of the joint
or did it flow all the way around??

That was fast for what i expected..

Very, very informative!! Thanks

I'd say 90% of the time you don't have to heat both sides so it "Normally" flows all the way around and into the brake line. But as with everything in life there are exceptions.

Oh I found the piece I used in the vid, just didn't snap a pic as I was doing other things. I'll try tonight or later this week.

cabsover78 · 08-01-2007, 02:10 PM

thanks alot. very imformative. helped me build my cage.

coolkidjf7 · 08-01-2007, 09:41 PM

warning very noob question!

is silv just regular solder? or somthing else. hope to build a full droop tuber somtime in the near future!

Double J · 08-10-2007, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolkidjf7

warning very noob question!

is silv just regular solder? or somthing else. hope to build a full droop tuber somtime in the near future!

Sorry haven't looke here for a bit.

silv is Silver Solder and the 45 or 55% that you'll see is the Silver content that it contains (amongst other things). It was made to adhear specific metals. I know it won't work on aluminum.

If you need more info I can get you a spec sheet with a list of all of it's contents.
jj

Oh I keep forgetting to take a pic of the piece I brazed togeather in the video for you guys.

aggressivellc · 08-14-2007, 09:14 PM

If you want the particulars on Safety-Silv go here
http://www.harrisproductsgroup.com/c...loys.asp?id=30

phishead1101 · 08-15-2007, 07:23 AM

One thing I would add.... is have a bucket of water around to quench the steal after your finished brazing. Save the burnt fingers! And you could put out a small fire if something like that should happen.

07-30-2007, 03:57 PM	#1
Double J I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: between heaven and hell. Posts: 3,367	Brazing Video Yeah I know the camera doesn't show detail that much but hey, better than nut-n.

07-31-2007, 08:46 PM	#11
RickSDMF Pebble Pounder Join Date: May 2006 Location: fremont Posts: 162	smae one ive been using for awhile if yall dont wanna spend the money on a oxy/mapp set up, for thicker gauged stuff that mapp wont work with theres another type of gas called oxyprop. will work with same torch head as mapp gas just allllot hotter. Last edited by RickSDMF; 07-31-2007 at 08:47 PM. Reason: i cant spell worth a damn

07-30-2007, 07:09 PM	#2
mrpink RCC Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: trying to find out what a TVuPer is..... Posts: 1,851	that just confused me more. j/k. I was thinking of doing something like this, but couldn't find a good way to show it. Maybe I will give it a shot. Having these will help weed out alot of repetitive questions. A sticky would be great.

07-30-2007, 08:20 PM	#3
badhoopty Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: chicago Posts: 2,814	you shouldnt give all your secrets away dude. bad fo' buisness. ;) the plate you braze on, is it aluminum? could you lay pieces of brakeline or whatever flat on an aluminum plate and braze them w/o the crap stickin' to the aluminum sheet?

07-30-2007, 08:48 PM	#5
braceysdad Adilynsdad too! Join Date: May 2004 Location: G ville Posts: 8,844	What torch are you using?

07-30-2007, 08:55 PM	#6
Thorsteenster I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 3,377	I was thinking of getting a piece of 1/8" steel for a base and using magnets to keep everything situated while brazing. Good vid! I dont know how they hold up to heat, but if you have a old or dead hard drive, take it apart, the magnets in those are STRONG!

07-31-2007, 07:51 PM	#9
PROTOTYPE RCC Addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Xxx Posts: 1,118	I know making a tube chassis is not easy , but that was a simple process . thanks for the info and the how to.

07-31-2007, 07:53 PM	#10
braceysdad Adilynsdad too! Join Date: May 2004 Location: G ville Posts: 8,844	I picked up one of those torches today...

07-31-2007, 08:55 PM	#12
BOWTIE Ultimate RC Decals Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: San Antonio Posts: 3,761	great vid.. could you post a picture of the pieces. like you mentioned before it's not clear in the video but i still picture might help.

07-31-2007, 09:01 PM	#14
MTHead DOOH!!! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: AZ Posts: 2,105	Double J, On a normal build would you have to braze the other side of the joint or did it flow all the way around?? That was fast for what i expected.. Very, very informative!! Thanks

08-01-2007, 02:10 PM	#16
cabsover78 Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: drunken Duncan B.C Posts: 189	thanks alot. very imformative. helped me build my cage.

08-01-2007, 09:41 PM	#17
coolkidjf7 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 517 Posts: 341	warning very noob question! is silv just regular solder? or somthing else. hope to build a full droop tuber somtime in the near future!

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08-14-2007, 09:14 PM	#19
aggressivellc Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Racking my Brain Posts: 424	If you want the particulars on Safety-Silv go here http://www.harrisproductsgroup.com/c...loys.asp?id=30

08-15-2007, 07:23 AM	#20
phishead1101 Rock Crawler Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Knoxville Posts: 611	One thing I would add.... is have a bucket of water around to quench the steal after your finished brazing. Save the burnt fingers! And you could put out a small fire if something like that should happen.

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