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Jeeprockcrawler · 09-01-2005, 07:23 PM

I am looking to lay my transmission down sideways to lower the CG. But to do that way the axle would have to be a 70/30 split axle. So my real question is: If I do that with a maxx diff will my articulation suffer or is there something I may not be thinking about? TIA

John

TwistedCreations · 09-01-2005, 09:04 PM

why not keep the diff in the center? my trans is laid down and it offsets the driveshafts also. I do not have any binding at all.. also, Old Dog has his maxx tranny turned sideways in his TXT and has no problems either. ohh and to think of it, JIA has it turned also

so as you see alot of people have done it and have no problems with driveshaft bind

Maxx4life · 09-01-2005, 10:19 PM

if you do a 70/30 split the artic in the front won't be very good because the links will be really short but the artic in the rear will be great and make up for the loss of artic in the front.

colin

Trike Kid · 09-01-2005, 10:54 PM

he's not talking about the 4 link, he's talking about offsetting the pumpkin(diff it self) I think. To do that you'd have to make some PVC axels, and I can see a benefit if you are going to do that in putting the diff all the way to one side, more under axel clearance.

TwistedCreations · 09-01-2005, 11:28 PM

how is that more under axle clearance? :?

if you build it from PVC, you would be making it straight. if you didn't, you would need some type of carrier bearing in the long side axle. that way your axle will stay straight in the bend and not bind....( ihave done thougth about making a set like that)

anyway..

so you build them from PVC straight. you have about 2 1/2" of clearance under your diff just sitting there. then you lift the tire that is on that side ( let's just say ) 6". you then have 8 1/2" under that side... but if you build them like most people(angled), you would have 4 1/2" just sitting there ( clearance under diff). then lift that tire again the 6" and then you looking at what?

Maxx4life · 09-02-2005, 07:19 PM

i'm confused

. you want to move the diff to one side of the axel?

colin

jason · 09-02-2005, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedCreations

how is that more under axle clearance? :?

It does help keep from dragging the diffs on everything. If you jam the center sections both to the sides as far as you can 90% of the time if you are gonna drag your diff on something the tire is very close and you can just get the tire on it instead of smashing the diff

Trike Kid · 09-02-2005, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxx4life

i'm confused

. you want to move the diff to one side of the axel?

colin

He's laying the tranny on its side, which puts the output of the trans to one side, you move the diff over to keep the driveshaft straight.

Jeeprockcrawler · 09-02-2005, 08:47 PM

Yes I am going to mount the diff to one side of the axle. Like the real crawler pictured. I will post pic as soon as I finish building them. I am use 3/8" tube and 18 gauge steel to make it.

onefstsnake · 09-02-2005, 10:11 PM

Jason-why would you want a turbo on a crawler? I know its not yours but turbos make power in the High RPMS. Seems like unless you got the turbo lag way down the steep power curve would **** you up...

Trike Kid · 09-03-2005, 01:57 AM

They run real low gears, with a super low case or twin T cases. They're reved up most of the time, not lugging like the V-8 crawlers of old.

jason · 09-03-2005, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onefstsnake

Jason-why would you want a turbo on a crawler? I know its not yours but turbos make power in the High RPMS. Seems like unless you got the turbo lag way down the steep power curve would **** you up...

Our car does actually have a turbo as well. It has a super tiny turbo so there is almost no lag. In total we only build about 8lbs max boost, and Aaron can stall it up on the brake and be almost at max boost before letting go of the brake.

hacked_hummer · 09-03-2005, 08:48 AM

I have a turbo on my truck and I get 580 lb/tq at 2000rpm.
it is a diesel, but it dose crawl awsome, though it spins the tsl's really easy.

I think that building a maxx axle w/ the diff to one side is an awsome idea it would look sweet. the only thing that I could see bad about it is if you wanted a wide track width because you are going to be using one long cvd (I hope your using cvd's) and one center cvd (from the trans to diff). I think itll look sick.

ps what is shannon campbell doing using a winch he dosn't need that stuff. lol

lilman · 09-04-2005, 04:54 PM

if anybody builds axles like the one on taht 1:1 crawler, post pics of the build up.

09-01-2005, 07:23 PM	#1
Jeeprockcrawler Rock Stacker Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Between 2 Rocks Posts: 65	Any one use a 60/40 split axle or 70/30??? I am looking to lay my transmission down sideways to lower the CG. But to do that way the axle would have to be a 70/30 split axle. So my real question is: If I do that with a maxx diff will my articulation suffer or is there something I may not be thinking about? TIA John

09-03-2005, 08:48 AM	#13
hacked_hummer Pebble Pounder Join Date: May 2005 Location: Los Osos, CA Posts: 100	I have a turbo on my truck and I get 580 lb/tq at 2000rpm. it is a diesel, but it dose crawl awsome, though it spins the tsl's really easy. I think that building a maxx axle w/ the diff to one side is an awsome idea it would look sweet. the only thing that I could see bad about it is if you wanted a wide track width because you are going to be using one long cvd (I hope your using cvd's) and one center cvd (from the trans to diff). I think itll look sick. ps what is shannon campbell doing using a winch he dosn't need that stuff. lol Last edited by hacked_hummer; 09-03-2005 at 08:53 AM.

09-01-2005, 09:04 PM	#2
TwistedCreations Colt Python/SR9c Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: out in the shop, reloading ammo! Posts: 8,626	why not keep the diff in the center? my trans is laid down and it offsets the driveshafts also. I do not have any binding at all.. also, Old Dog has his maxx tranny turned sideways in his TXT and has no problems either. ohh and to think of it, JIA has it turned also so as you see alot of people have done it and have no problems with driveshaft bind

09-01-2005, 10:19 PM	#3
Maxx4life Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: fort bragg, ca (NOR-CAL) Posts: 192	if you do a 70/30 split the artic in the front won't be very good because the links will be really short but the artic in the rear will be great and make up for the loss of artic in the front. colin

09-01-2005, 10:54 PM	#4
Trike Kid RCC Addict Join Date: May 2005 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 1,191	he's not talking about the 4 link, he's talking about offsetting the pumpkin(diff it self) I think. To do that you'd have to make some PVC axels, and I can see a benefit if you are going to do that in putting the diff all the way to one side, more under axel clearance.

09-01-2005, 11:28 PM	#5
TwistedCreations Colt Python/SR9c Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: out in the shop, reloading ammo! Posts: 8,626	how is that more under axle clearance? :? if you build it from PVC, you would be making it straight. if you didn't, you would need some type of carrier bearing in the long side axle. that way your axle will stay straight in the bend and not bind....( ihave done thougth about making a set like that) anyway.. so you build them from PVC straight. you have about 2 1/2" of clearance under your diff just sitting there. then you lift the tire that is on that side ( let's just say ) 6". you then have 8 1/2" under that side... but if you build them like most people(angled), you would have 4 1/2" just sitting there ( clearance under diff). then lift that tire again the 6" and then you looking at what?

09-02-2005, 07:19 PM	#6
Maxx4life Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: fort bragg, ca (NOR-CAL) Posts: 192	i'm confused . you want to move the diff to one side of the axel? colin

09-02-2005, 08:47 PM	#9
Jeeprockcrawler Rock Stacker Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Between 2 Rocks Posts: 65	Yes I am going to mount the diff to one side of the axle. Like the real crawler pictured. I will post pic as soon as I finish building them. I am use 3/8" tube and 18 gauge steel to make it.

09-02-2005, 10:11 PM	#10
onefstsnake Quarry Creeper Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Northern Va Posts: 244	Jason-why would you want a turbo on a crawler? I know its not yours but turbos make power in the High RPMS. Seems like unless you got the turbo lag way down the steep power curve would **** you up...

09-03-2005, 01:57 AM	#11
Trike Kid RCC Addict Join Date: May 2005 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 1,191	They run real low gears, with a super low case or twin T cases. They're reved up most of the time, not lugging like the V-8 crawlers of old.

09-04-2005, 04:54 PM	#14
lilman Newbie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Salem Posts: 37	if anybody builds axles like the one on taht 1:1 crawler, post pics of the build up.

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