( UPDATED-almost done) Black Widow project

[TwistedCreations]

Well i had this over in the general discussion and that thread kinda got outta hand. So i decided to make one over here, probably where it belongs anyway most have you have probably already seen it, but i will keep this here and update it as i go.

anyway- the chassis is based from the " Formula Toyota" and i got the design of the straight axle idea from Jay Kopycinski. i liked his idea better for ground clearance the main part of the chassis is built from 3/16" solid square( which i may need to modify some due to clearance issues)) and the cage is built from 3/16" solid rod. with just the trans and both motors on the chassis,it weighed 2lbs. it will have a wheelbase between 15-16". it has a little over 4" of diff clearance w/ the BFTs' on and the axles are 14.5" ( WMS-WMS) and 17.5" ( outside of tire-outside of tire). with the stance it will have ( like in the pic below) it will have 5.5" of clearance under the chassis and the height will be 12". the trans will be locked in 1st gear and i will use that channel to control my rear steer. i will also be removing the shifter switch on the controller and installing a 3way momentary switch.

so that's about it, now on to the pics and flame away

[jason]

Looks good, steering is a bitch on these type of axles isn't it

[TwistedCreations]

just sent you a PM jason..as far as the steering, yes it is a bitch..im trying to keep everything out of each others way and it keeps getting harder

[skyjacker_rc_club]

that thing is starting to look super nice probaly one of the best emaxx crawlers ive seen no joke.

[TwistedCreations]

ahh, your just saying that Skyjacker cause there really isn't too many emaxx crawlers

thanks for the compliments guys. i am gonna start building the front axle 2day and hopefully quit screwing around with this project and get it rolling


after talking with JK( mudcow) i may need to redo my top links and make them longer. it changes my pinion angle a little bit and i was not really wanting that. i don't see it hurting anything, but i guess it's just the idea that i know it changes. after i get it rolling and see how it does on the 1st test run, i will then figure out if i need to change them or not. as for it twisting up right now, it does great with no binding at all. so enough rambling and time to get back outside and work on it

[roktoy]

Coming along nicely!
Jay

[BARK]

What is the clearance under the diffs going to be?
Is it anything compareable to Kongs on a solid axle?
I could imagine something similar to your axles ( but a little wider to make up for being so tall) with Kongs (or narrowed Kongs). That would be one bad RC, but im not sure if even qualifies as an RC. Maybe a small Quad

[TwistedCreations]

Originally Posted by BARK

What is the clearance under the diffs going to be?
Is it anything compareable to Kongs on a solid axle?
I could imagine something similar to your axles ( but a little wider to make up for being so tall) with Kongs (or narrowed Kongs). That would be one bad RC, but im not sure if even qualifies as an RC. Maybe a small Quad

the clearance under the diffs is just a little over 4" with the BFT tires on (7" tall tire)

you kinda lost me on the tall part :? are you saying that mine is too tall and needs to be wider also

i could put Kongs on mine with no problem and it would only be about 13" or so tall, but i like the BFT's since they don't weigh as much as the kongs and don't put all the added stress on as of right now, i think my axles are wider than clods

[skyjacker_rc_club]

i would say it alot wider then a clod. looking at the drive shafts or did you cut them down. i cant get over how sick that cage looks. maby ill make one for the gecko maxx lol

[RcRock-Guru]

Your truck seems to be coming along pretty well, everything looks awesome. I'd for sure say it should be wider then clod awles.

[TwistedCreations]

Originally Posted by skyjacker_rc_club

i would say it alot wider then a clod. looking at the drive shafts or did you cut them down. i cant get over how sick that cage looks. maby ill make one for the gecko maxx lol

i never knew actually how wide the clod axles were

but my axles haven't been cut down at all. they kinda have me concerned if they will hold up like that, but Jay said he never had a problem with his. so if i break one,im gonna double up the axles( tube inside of each other) since they don't move up and down anymore

[Fishmaxx]

Originally Posted by Toyotafourwheeln

now on to the pics and flame away

Man you Suck ..................now I have to build one of those LOL


GOOD WORK

[BARK]

Originally Posted by Toyotafourwheeln

you kinda lost me on the tall part :? are you saying that mine is too tall and needs to be wider also

I was saying that if you put Kongs on that already huge truck that you "MIGHT" be too tall. I guess we will have to see when it is all said and done.

[TwistedCreations]

the way it will sit with the 7" tall BFTs' on, it ill only be about 2" taller than a stock Emaxx.i dont see how that makes it an " already huge truck". the kongs are only what-another 1.5" tall.so that would only raise it another 3/4".. i don't think it would be that big.. but as i always say " go big or GO HOME!"

[pont_tranzam]

nice truck man, you did a very clean job on the axles. In the construction of them did you weld or braze it together. Also what kind of metal is it made out of and did you just tighten the pillow balls in place and join the rod to the ball end or did you go all the way to the knuckle with the rod. one more thing, did you think about doing the one motor modification so you could lose some more weight i'm working on a prototype and i change to one motor and made a bracket to run the spur gear from the other side. this allowed me to lower the motor which is pretty heavy about a 1-1/2". from the pics it looks like you could do this easliy. I'm going to take some pictures and post it soon.

[TwistedCreations]

thanks i welded everything together. i tried to braze the project, but had never brazed before and had been having trouble. so i got tired of screwing around and just used the 110 on it

the axles are made out of 1/4" solid rod and the 2 pieces around the diffs are just washers for a 1" bolt. as for the pillow balls,i drilled the ends of the 1/4" rods and tapped them with a 5mm tap. then put a 5mm nut onto the pillow ball and screwed them in. i use the nut to keep the pillow ball tight.

yes it will be running one motor and battery. yes i can lower the trans and motor, but i added that lower part of the chassis so the trans would be covered. i just have to make the whole bottom skidplate now

[pont_tranzam]

I seen the sizes rod that you used but i was wondering if it is stainless or aluminum also what are you considering making your skid plate out of, because i made a full underbelly skid plate out of 1/8" teflon and it worked great i would suggest this material because it is very slick and very easy to work with.

[TwistedCreations]

the only thing AL. on it is the steering links and 4-link. the rest is just basic metal from home depot over in the " hardware" section. i didn't need to get into stainless and all that since it won't see the rain and by the time it ever rusts out, i will have built another one

skidplate- im not sure yet. i was gonna go with AL. but that stuff likes to get tore up on rocks pretty good and sometimes will hang ya up after a rock digs in. i may just use some 18ga. or 16ga. metal strip and just bolt it on. haven't thought about it much yet

[skyjacker_rc_club]

cant wait to get me welder set up for alum.

[snowmobiler21]

hey toyotafour whellin would u be interested in maing one for money? if so about how much for the frame and axles? i have all the electronics and differintial, tryed making y own set-up but it didn't work so lemme know about if u could make one and howmuch it might be