U4RC Rock Racing Series info and update thread.

[axelsnapr]

Flyer for the next race guys and gals!


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[ickabob]

See you guys there.

[hlrider130]

Can't wait!!!

[Rockpiledriver]

Is everyone ok with the rules the way they are? Is there anything that is confusing or needs attention?

Just having a hard time believing we got it right the first time.

[hlrider130]

In my opinion maybe there should be a stock competitor class for stock twin hammer time vehicles. Thoughts!

[Rockpiledriver]

Originally Posted by hlrider130

In my opinion maybe there should be a stock competitor class for stock twin hammer time vehicles. Thoughts!

In the 3 races we have had so far I am only aware of 2 "box stock" rigs competing. One in 1.9, and one in 2.2. Both times these rigs have done pretty good running against all out modified rigs.

One problem with a box stock or as we call it a "spec" class is, where do you draw the line on what is "stock"? If you change tires it is no longer stock, but that could be an advantage or a disadvantage depending on the tire chosen.

Another problem is having enough box stock rigs to fill a class. Personally, I'd rather say "I beat 4 guys with modded rigs, with my box stock rig," then race against only one or two guys, if even that, in a spec class.

We would need a minimum of 4 rigs to create another class of any type. We have been asked to start a Powder Puff class, same deal, if it happens we will do what the drivers want.

[hlrider130]

Ok cool. As long as I know I have a fighting chance against the mod trucks then I'm in.

[Rockpiledriver]

A drivers skill is way more important as it usually is. Round 1 I ran against Scott Hughes. He not only beat my HIGHLY modded TH with his stock (minus a 20t motor and the small Proline 1.9 swampers), he lapped me in the heat and in the main. If you are reading this Scott, don't expect that to happen again.

[Cpt Nemo]

Originally Posted by Rockpiledriver

Is everyone ok with the rules the way they are? Is there anything that is confusing or needs attention?

Just having a hard time believing we got it right the first time.

What about 1.9 tires on 2.2 wheels?

[Rockpiledriver]

Originally Posted by Cpt Nemo

What about 1.9 tires on 2.2 wheels?

For 2.2 or 1.9 class?

We talked about allowing rigs to move up in class but not down, time and participation allowing. IE: a 1.9 trail rig in both 1.9 trail and 1.9 comp in an effort to give drivers the option of more racing without having rigs for more than one class. If we happen to get twice the crowd, then this would not be an option. Anyone have opinions on that idea?

The exception would be Trophy 2.2, that will be a stand alone class. You either meet the specs for that class or not.

[Cpt Nemo]

Originally Posted by Rockpiledriver

For 2.2 or 1.9 class?

We talked about allowing rigs to move up in class but not down, time and participation allowing. IE: a 1.9 trail rig in both 1.9 trail and 1.9 comp in an effort to give drivers the option of more racing without having rigs for more than one class. If we happen to get twice the crowd, then this would not be an option. Anyone have opinions on that idea?

The exception would be Trophy 2.2, that will be a stand alone class. You either meet the specs for that class or not.

1.9 class. What differance does it make on the wheel diameter? Is what I am getting at. Classes should be set by tire diameter not wheel size. 1.9 tires now are as big as some 2.2.

[The Doc]

Well this sucks!! My exo with 2.2 wheels and tires won't make the rules. Shit even with SC wheels and tires it barely makes the 12.5 and even the 1.9's on it, its at 13'' We'll that was fun while it lasted I guess it goes back on the shelf.

[Rockpiledriver]

Originally Posted by Cpt Nemo

1.9 class. What differance does it make on the wheel diameter? Is what I am getting at. Classes should be set by tire diameter not wheel size. 1.9 tires now are as big as some 2.2.

Our thought was to keep the rigs looking as scale as possible in all classes without writing 100 page rule book. I am not aware of any Ultra 4 1:1 rigs running 22" wheels.

Originally Posted by The Doc

Well this sucks!! My exo with 2.2 wheels and tires won't make the rules. Shit even with SC wheels and tires it barely makes the 12.5 and even the 1.9's on it, its at 13'' We'll that was fun while it lasted I guess it goes back on the shelf.

Easy Mike this is a discussion thread, nothing is etched in stone. Can you please post a pic of your rig with the 2.2's and give us the exact width? No wideners right?

[Cpt Nemo]

Originally Posted by Rockpiledriver

Our thought was to keep the rigs looking as scale as possible in all classes without writing 100 page rule book. I am not aware of any Ultra 4 1:1 rigs running 22" wheels.

So "technically" there should be no 2.2 class at all.

[The Doc]

Easy Mike this is a discussion thread, nothing is etched in stone. Can you please post a pic of your rig with the 2.2's and give us the exact width? No wideners right?[/QUOTE]

Bry, I will try to get a pick, but I'm leaving on a camping trip for this weekend so it might have to happen after I get back. BUT....if you guys are going to let it run I need to know asap, because I'm going to stop working on it right now if it can't run. My 1.9s are right at 13'' and I know the 2.2 are going to be a tad wider.

[axelsnapr]

Originally Posted by Cpt Nemo

1.9 class. What differance does it make on the wheel diameter? Is what I am getting at. Classes should be set by tire diameter not wheel size. 1.9 tires now are as big as some 2.2.

Thanks for the questions and input. RPD nailed it pretty good. We wrote the class specs that way for uniformity and simplicity reasons. I know in some forms of full size off road racing, classes may be seperated by tire diameter. But for the most part the r/c world is divided by rim diameter. So we decided to stick with that uniformity.

Rules can always be amended, and if we see fit in the future we may seperate classes differently.

Originally Posted by The Doc

Well this sucks!! My exo with 2.2 wheels and tires won't make the rules. Shit even with SC wheels and tires it barely makes the 12.5 and even the 1.9's on it, its at 13'' We'll that was fun while it lasted I guess it goes back on the shelf.

Mike, the reason we left the SCT rim allowance in the 2.2 Comp class was for rigs just like the EXO that come stock with SCT rims. The realism is kinda out the door the with different diameters of faces on SCT rims.

The EXO would be unproportionally wide with most standard 2.2 rims. So we allowed SCT rims for the 2.2 Competitor class. Like Brian said, post up some info and we will definitley address the width rule if possible.

Thanks for the input to the thread, you may be asking questions that are also helpful to others.

[TheAxialNut]

In my opinion....those rules/classes sound reasonable/compettitive, and as with real racing while trying to conform to the rules try to exploit them....meaning find the tallest tire manufactured in the class to exploit that rule...or buy a 4-pole motor instead of a 2 or 3 pole for more torque. Stay within the rules just figure out the best tire, motor, esc, servo, whatever is required to win...

Seems like the new system is the Wrexo....

Because if you start to win races cuz you have brushless, instead of brushed....(my case...), or whatever the case may be, then you can "cheat" within the rules and bring home trophies!

Good Luck!

See you on the 21st with the new setup....

[ickabob]

Originally Posted by TheAxialNut

In my opinion....those rules/classes sound reasonable/compettitive, and as with real racing while trying to conform to the rules try to exploit them....meaning find the tallest tire manufactured in the class to exploit that rule...or buy a 4-pole motor instead of a 2 or 3 pole for more torque. Stay within the rules just figure out the best tire, motor, esc, servo, whatever is required to win...

Seems like the new system is the Wrexo....

Because if you start to win races cuz you have brushless, instead of brushed....(my case...), or whatever the case may be, then you can "cheat" within the rules and bring home trophies!

Good Luck!

See you on the 21st with the new setup....

The rules are fine and will evolve as this new sport grows, changes will be needed, who can figure it all out and make everything or everybody happy at once. People will complain and bitch no matter what, even if they haven't tried it yet, and that's just there negative bs personality.

[Rockpiledriver]

Nobody will be turned away as long as it is not a "track" car, like a 4wd sc truck. This is scale desert rock racing.

[The Doc]

here's the 1.9's on it and its 13'' wide, you have to admit that the last 2 shots look scale and bad ass




And here it is with 2.2's It does look different but it has good ground clearance