03-18-2014, 06:11 PM | #41 | |
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Run an "open" class I want to try out my new Twin Hammers with MM and 12s power! | |
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03-18-2014, 06:40 PM | #42 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Sin City
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I understand keeping it scale - that's where using scale tires come in. Cut and shut to help a rig look and preform better in no way makes it look less scale. But that's my 2cents in the grand design. |
03-18-2014, 07:01 PM | #43 |
www.ottsix.com Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico USA
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03-18-2014, 07:05 PM | #44 |
www.ottsix.com Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico USA
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| Re: U4RC Current Class Specs/Rules It doesn't happen because it doesn't need to...if you like your 1:1 tire but want a different size, you simply go out and buy another size. We don't have this option in the RC world so that's where the cut-n-shut comes into play for us.
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03-18-2014, 08:26 PM | #45 |
Jerry's RC Garage Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: lake forest
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I heard you want to use a scale tire to do the cut-n- shut. I want to see after the cut-n-shut it will make the deciding factor. If you worried about pming then I will give you my email or cell phone number. We are trying to get it decided before releasing the new rules for next series. Just a hint the winter series ends Saturday
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03-18-2014, 09:13 PM | #46 |
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I'm not trying to be rude my any means but I don't know why a pm is needed. But there is cut and shut scale tires across this board. At the same time - I'm not local to you guys and don't get to come race every weekend so it's just my 2cents. |
03-18-2014, 09:15 PM | #47 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SoCal
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03-18-2014, 09:42 PM | #48 |
Jerry's RC Garage Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: lake forest
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| I know you cannot use them in a recon g6 or a u4rc race. If you can use them in a scale comp then it is not very scale. Only time I have seen them used is in a comp and u4rc isn't a comp
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03-18-2014, 10:06 PM | #49 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SoCal
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So we should allow cut and shut tires, even though that is something we disagree with just because a couple guys who have yet race our series say we are stifling competition? Where are the 100% of people that agree with you two? |
03-18-2014, 10:19 PM | #50 |
www.ottsix.com Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico USA
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Well, I've said everything I wanted to say...I've asked others to chime in...if they do, they do, if not, then oh well.
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03-18-2014, 10:28 PM | #51 | |
www.ottsix.com Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico USA
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Ottsix Scale Tire 1.9 or 2.2 | |
03-18-2014, 10:40 PM | #52 |
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This might be a stupid question, I've never run them. Is cut and shut done to any tire or are they only done on pin type tires.
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03-18-2014, 11:06 PM | #53 |
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They can be done with any tire |
03-18-2014, 11:09 PM | #54 | |
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03-18-2014, 11:30 PM | #55 | |
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we didn't use either one of those tires for our design concept. | |
03-18-2014, 11:32 PM | #56 |
www.ottsix.com Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico USA
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A 2.2 unlimited class would be very cool
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03-19-2014, 12:13 AM | #57 |
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My thoughts, and just loose ones. 1.9 Trail 1.9 comp Stay the same.... 2.2 comp. Should be all plastic type cage rigs. And a weight limit and drivers. 2.2 Trophy. Should be all steel cages and look scale. And a weight limit and drivers. Forget!!! the unlimited class, that is just going to stir up stuff. This U4RC thing was started to be a scaled down version of the 1.1 races. Cut up chassis and rigs that don't look like 1.1's shouldn't be out there. And I feel that rigs that are capable of flipping their self's over if their on their tops with out the help of a turn Marshall should not be racing. I have never seen a 1.1 buggy do that and it's not fair to the other racers. When the tires are taller than the side of a rig...there's a problem. That's my .2 cents |
03-19-2014, 01:27 AM | #58 |
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Just to stir the pot. Production tires only (no mods at all. No siping no grovinv, no shaving) I'd almost go as far as saying licensed tires only. If it's not produced 1:1 it's not legal. Just thinking out loud -) Personally I think protecting the scaleness should be top priority. Look at almost all forms of R/C and everybody runs what works not what looks scale. Example: Ask yourself do you like the look of cab forward buggy bodies? Do you like the look of your comp rig? Why are you running a "scale" R/C?? Let the RACING be the deciding factor. If you seek all out performance then that's fine. (Comp crawling has you covered) At the local track I race an EXO Terra Buggy, not because it's the fastest or the best performing. I run an EXO because it looks the best. And when my car hits the track you can bet every kid in the stands is watching MY car. And I am rewarded every time a young kid comes up and says "your car looks awesome. I hope you win". That is the beats coming across the finish line in 1st any day Once again I'm an outsider so don't take my post too seriously. But I've seen almost every from of competition R/C suffer from the constant push for performance. |
03-19-2014, 01:47 AM | #59 |
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Never meant to stir this big of a debate. But I will ask - if the scale look of a tire is so bothering why isn't tranny-tcase combo mandatory? Is cage to helmet height measured? Drivers are mandatory - what about a rad, fuel cell, safety lights.... Scale is all in the eye of the beholder guys and anyone can be just as happy about their cut and shuts as the next guy is about his scale welded shock mounts. Again - the only reason I posted anything was bc I believe cut and shuts is a valuable tuning tool and I have seen plenty of Big scale 2.2s made smaller and they look better. No pin tires no 8in monster tires (even though I have seen 1:1s right themselves-YouTube). |
03-19-2014, 07:54 AM | #60 |
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| Re: U4RC Current Class Specs/Rules I wasn't going to comment since I'm no where near the track you guys run, but I really have to agree with Rockpiledriver on this one. Why is there a need for cut and shuts? Not everyone is a tire guru, and can pull off doing a respectable cut and shut, but if the perception is that it's required in order to be competitive, it could turn people off before they even get started. By having a "No Mod" rule in place, the issue is avoided before it even begins. Take a read through some of the "Declining Interest in Comp" threads here on RCC, and take your cues from there. |
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