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11-03-2021, 06:28 AM | #21 | |||
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Yeah, they should know that people do work! That is the reason why I had mine shipped to my work. I knew that Fed Ex would try to deliver when I'm not home, then I would have to either have it redelivered the next day or go pick it up at my local Fed Ex. I tell ya the next time if items don't ship UPS then I'll just cancel my order. I've always had better luck with UPS! Fingers crossed you get yours today at 4! Quote:
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11-03-2021, 09:52 AM | #22 |
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First of all before I get into the build, I must say this new Phoenix Portal kit is by far the best kit that I have ever built. I have built many kits including both the Vanquish VS4-10 Origin and the VS4-10 PRO and loved how smooth and easy they were to build, but this new Phoenix seems to be on a higher level. Everything about this kit just feels and looks great! The plastics that are used are top notch and the machined metal parts are precisely manufactured. At this point I have about 90% of the kit completed and did not have any issues with missing parts or wrong parts in the kit. Each individual bag had the right amount of pieces in each. Now I did notice that the manual had a few issues, but the e-manual that is on VP's website has been corrected and that is the manual that I used and am currently using. Ok, now on to the build. I started off with Bag A, the front axle. I must say these new plastic axles that VP has designed are extremely nice. I have always been a fan of the machined aluminum axle housings that they make, but I think these new plastic axle housings are now my favorites! They are molded so nice and smooth and they look great! They are beefy and have all the needed gussets to make these extremely durable! I have laid out all of the parts from each bag so that in case anyone has issues with their kit, they can compare theirs to mine. Oh, these look so good! On to Bag C, the chassis. The chassis is from what I can tell is identical to the PRO and Ultra chassis'. It is also the same as the Chassis Kit that is available separately. I believe the only difference is the trans skid. It is designed a little different to hold the new VFD Twin trans. One thing to note is on the front shock towers, the manual doesn't show these installed correctly. In order for the front inner fenders to fit properly, install the shock towers like they are pictured below. Edit: svt923 made me aware of why the shock tower is installed the way it is in the manual. See post #27 & #28 below for the explanation. So don't do as I said above, unless you want to use the body post holes in the future for other types of bodies. Thanks for looking! More to come later! Last edited by B-MOW71; 11-03-2021 at 06:15 PM. |
11-03-2021, 11:57 AM | #23 |
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This is my first VP rig, but have to agree with you. The quality in this kit is outstanding
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11-03-2021, 12:26 PM | #24 |
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Thats lookin good brian! Like how u laid everything out for referance. I got a message from fedex a lil bit ago. Them idiots cant read smh. I told them 4pm, but they done been to the house. They left a tag on the door, so i signed it yesterday. Good thing i did, cause ITS ON THE PORCH!!!!! Lol |
11-03-2021, 03:28 PM | #25 |
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Looking good...looking good (it's so nice, I had to say it twice...lol). Have you decided whether you'll be running it with, or without, the rear side panels...or whether you'll go with something completely different? Also, have you decided on electronics (especially ESC & motor, and what kV)? As for me, I haven't decided whether I'll keep, or sell, the Phoenix Portal axle set. I just order (via an RC chop shop) the machined axle set from the Pro, which is what I'll be installing on my Phoenix (once I receive it). One idea (since the Phoenix doesn't qualify (under SORRCA rules) as a Class 2 rig) is to keep them, and pair them with a standard VFD trans & skid, but on a non-Vanquish chassis. Is anyone aware of a CF or G10 'flat' rail chassis that the VFD trans/skid fits nicely on? ~ More peace, love, and kindness would make the world a much better place |
11-03-2021, 03:39 PM | #26 |
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Thanks for the clear layout of parts and the tips on assembly Brian! I see Smog in Winnipeg got his kit so hopefully I will be next in line further east! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
11-03-2021, 04:02 PM | #27 |
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| Re: B-MOW's VS4-10 Phoenix Portal Actually the manual is correct on the front shock towers, they face that way because there are cut outs in the fenders that allow the shocks to be removed without taking the fenders off. The screw needs to face the back of the truck for it to work.
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11-03-2021, 06:08 PM | #28 | |||||
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As for a CF chassis for the VFD, I recently built a GSpeed CF and used my Origin D44 axles and a VFD trans. These trans fit perfectly in the G-rigs. I didn't use the stock skid though. I used a delrin skid and used spacers to install the VFD. Check out my build here to see more: B-MOW's GSPEED V3 VS4-10 Origin VFD Build Quote:
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11-04-2021, 09:53 AM | #29 |
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Moving on, I'm skipping the D-Bag for now. I'm gonna build the awesome VFD Twin later on. Up now is Bag-G, the links. I'll get to Bag-E in a bit. The links went together well and are beefy. I believe they are the same link set that I have on my Origin and PRO. Bag-E, the shocks. These new SC8E Incision 80mm shocks are nice improvement over the Incision shocks of the past that were found on the Origin, PRO & Ultra. These have bleeder screws in the shock caps that make it easier to get the exact amount of fluid in the shocks without overfilling them. There have been a few complaints about the shock collars being hard to thread on properly. Luckily for me, my shock collars threaded on without any problems. I did take my time and slowly thread them on. Once they were down on a couple threads, they screwed on fairly easy. I went ahead and used the supplied 30wt fluid that was provided in the kit. Once I get this rig out on the rocks, I'll see if I need to adjust the shock fluid. These shocks went together very easy on the first try (unlike the older version of Incision shocks) and are nice and smooth and leak free. I've seen a few others switch out their springs and shock collars for the Losi Mini-T springs. I may eventually switch to the Mini-T's in the future. The one issue I had was with the pistons. I felt that they were a little tight when installed in the shock bodies. I lightly sanded down the pistons a touch so that they weren't so tight in the shock bodies. I was able to hold the shock shaft at a 45 degree angle to the sandpaper so that the piston would spin on the shaft to evenly sand each side of the piston. And here are a few pics of the axles, links & shocks installed into the chassis. More on the way later! |
11-04-2021, 10:28 AM | #30 | |
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Any chance you have a set of GTS shocks laying around and you could confirm whether they fit or not? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk | |
11-04-2021, 10:39 AM | #31 |
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Looks good bud |
11-04-2021, 10:42 AM | #32 | |
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11-04-2021, 11:22 AM | #33 |
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Did you have to adjust the panhard at all to get the axle centered?
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11-04-2021, 02:30 PM | #34 | ||
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I do have a spare set of GTS shocks. Let me try it out later on and I get back with you. Thanks man! Quote:
By the looks of the upper and lower fronts and rears, they do look similar. I'll have to compare these to my PRO to see which ones are the same or different. No. It actually looks pretty good. I'll get a better look at it once I get the body and tires on it, but as it sits it looks good. I'll let you know later on. | ||
11-04-2021, 02:54 PM | #35 | |
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I email Vanquish for specifics, but Michael Pham (the person who always replies to emails) seems to be consistently adamant about not giving out any detailed information...on ANYTHING. In asking about measurements, I asked what the differences were between the Pro & Phoenix links, and he responded by saying, "One is longer than the other." Wray kind of answer is that? Sheesh. I'm replying back, trying to be more specific, I asked what the lengths were of the Pro & Phoenix drag link & panhard. He responded with. "i6 don't have that information." These are the same types of responses I've gotten from him for almost three years. ~ More peace, love, and kindness would make the world a much better place | |
11-04-2021, 05:40 PM | #36 |
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Man oh man, thats lookin gojus brian! Glad youre liking the build, mines goin together smoothly. Just got the trans done a lil bit ago. Hopefully the shocks go together as nicely. Ill keep in mind that sandpaper trick on the pistons
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11-04-2021, 06:52 PM | #37 |
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I’m real curious to see what you do with the paint… Coming together nicely! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
11-04-2021, 08:45 PM | #38 | ||
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Hey bama thanks! Glad to hear yours is going together smooth! Be gentle with the shock collars and they’ll go on! Quote:
Thanks twade! Hoping to get some paint on it this weekend. It’s been to chilly here lately. Sounds like the temps will be better this Sunday. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk | ||
11-05-2021, 09:30 AM | #39 |
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Awesome job so far Brian! Really clean and smooth build! Lead the way with all your great wisdom on this build! I hope to get to mine soon! Still no parcel. Cheers! Doug Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
11-05-2021, 09:35 AM | #40 |
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Next up is Bag-F, driveshafts. The new ISD10 Driveshafts looks very similar to the Axial WB driveshafts. I've always had good luck with the WB driveshafts and these new VP shafts should do just fine. I'll see how they hold up and I might eventually upgrade to the Incision metal driveshafts. A really nice feature that these new VP shafts have is an alignment mark molded into them so that it makes it easier to put them in phase. Here are the extra pieces that aren't needed, but will come in handy for other builds! And now Bag-H, chassis parts. Here we have a random mixture of pieces to complete the chassis. I did get the VFD Twin trans built, so I'll have more on that next! |
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