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Rich Trujillo 10-22-2014 11:39 AM

Ascender Wheel Base & Link Reference Guide
 
I've seen the comments about confusion with the links needed and center trans positions for the different wheel base options. The K5 Blazer requires the 314mm (WB4) Wheel base. Hopefully this will make things a little easier.

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if0rg0t2remember 10-22-2014 12:25 PM

Re: Ascender Wheel Base & Link Reference Guide
 
I already built mine and figured this out, but this is a much more concise visual with all the links and such in one place.

M1tch 10-22-2014 03:38 PM

Re: Ascender Wheel Base & Link Reference Guide
 
Yet again good work. I still am waiting for my Ascender, but All this helps a lot.

Ty@Tekin 10-22-2014 03:49 PM

Re: Ascender Wheel Base & Link Reference Guide
 
Dialed, thanks Rich! I'm sure this will help lots of people visualize it better.

BOB66 01-26-2015 12:16 PM

Re: Ascender Wheel Base & Link Reference Guide
 
Good afternoon Rich

would you have any pictures of the ascender view if the bottom all complete im have a few concerns of how things should actually be

i think that buy looking at a completed one it would really be help full to someone like me that is new
or tell me were i can go and look

if you have anything that would help i would appreciate it

Rich Trujillo 01-26-2015 05:51 PM

Re: Ascender Wheel Base & Link Reference Guide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BOB66 (Post 5126179)
Good afternoon Rich

would you have any pictures of the ascender view if the bottom all completet

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...psaxiuhdo1.jpg

wraithguy13 01-28-2015 07:17 AM

Re: Ascender Wheel Base & Link Reference Guide
 
Awesome thank you. What size rod for the pan hard bar on a 314 wheel base? 66?


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Rich Trujillo 01-28-2015 08:49 AM

Re: Ascender Wheel Base & Link Reference Guide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wraithguy13 (Post 5128303)
Awesome thank you. What size rod for the pan hard bar on a 314 wheel base? 66?


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Yes with the 12mm spacer for a total of 78mm. This does not change for any of the wheel base options.

Castor-Troy 05-02-2015 01:56 AM

Re: Ascender Wheel Base & Link Reference Guide
 
do you have to change something about the battery tray for the 278mm wheelbase ?

SSD 01-21-2016 10:29 AM

Re: Ascender Wheel Base & Link Reference Guide
 
According to the manual:

WB4 314mm

Front Upper link should be: 66mm + 12mm spacer.

Rich can you confirm this is correct and your image above is wrong?

Thanks

Rich Trujillo 01-21-2016 10:45 AM

Re: Ascender Wheel Base & Link Reference Guide
 
This image is correct, the manual has the error.

Rich

northernerbill 01-21-2016 11:07 AM

Re: Ascender Wheel Base & Link Reference Guide
 
Hi Rich, thanks for doing this, and I'm glad to see your WB2 is actually what I ended up at anyway.

Now I also had to chop 8mm from the front inner drive shaft (both where the shorter parts) so it didn't bottom out.

My main worry is that the people on these forums are a fraction of the people actually building these and getting the instructions sorted should be a massive priority.

The kit itself I love it bud, the parts are great quality, its functionality is superb and you should be proud of what you've created.

A good old bollock sandwich lol"thumbsup"

pottymouth 05-05-2016 12:49 PM

Re: Ascender Wheel Base & Link Reference Guide
 
I built mine by the book: WB1 with 61 mm top and bottom front links instead of the 66mm bottoms you say here. I suppose this is why the front axle is so clocked. I like where this wheelbase ended up (267mm), so I'm probably going to use a shorter upper link rather than put the 66mm rods on the bottom or maybe drill another hole and slide the whole tranny backwards to split the difference. I did already hack 6mm off the front shaft to fit it as is so that might actually make it TOO short. We shall see.

Why are these wheelbase options so huge? Looks like the actual '86 Blazer had a wheelbase of 2642mm, so this 314mm is more like 11.8% scale than 10% scale. I'm not necessarily complaining. All the other bodies I've ever built with actually run small (9.2% to 9.5% scale) so obviously it's not an exact science. I'm just a math douche.

Natedog 05-05-2016 05:30 PM

Re: Ascender Wheel Base & Link Reference Guide
 
Yes, that is why your front axle is clocked back, not enough caster. Either way, you can correct it any of the ways you mentioned, always good to think and splitting the difference by drilling holes and moving skid may work better for your setup. I'm looking forward to seeing your build/modifications thread here. :)

Stock Blazer wheelbase is 314mm (12.3622") and nothing is exact, but a good scale resemblance. "thumbsup"
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Smonkman 09-05-2016 09:45 PM

Re: Ascender Wheel Base & Link Reference Guide
 
I have my links/frame set up for WB2 but my battery tray won't mount up. Does it need to be changed from the RTR set up?

Natedog 09-05-2016 11:08 PM

Re: Ascender Wheel Base & Link Reference Guide
 
Yes, the battery tray to axle link needs to move to the back side of where it was for Blazer 12.3"wb. Carefully press the upper pivot ball out of the dogbone link, flip it 180' and press it back in. This is same as Broncos rtr setting.

K5383 09-07-2016 01:12 PM

Re: Ascender Wheel Base & Link Reference Guide
 
Glad you posted this Rich, I had the 66mm upper link up front, swapped it for the 61(WB4).

Wow; the truck drives entirely different, and in nothing but good ways!!

Appreciate the feedback here on the forums, been alot of help along the way.

OldNTired 09-17-2016 11:32 PM

Re: Ascender Wheel Base & Link Reference Guide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Natedog (Post 5559348)
Yes, the battery tray to axle link needs to move to the back side of where it was for Blazer 12.3"wb. Carefully press the upper pivot ball out of the dogbone link, flip it 180' and press it back in. This is same as Broncos rtr setting.

Just bought a K10 RTR and wasn't sure about this fitment of the tray. Seems a bit tight even with the negative terminal layed over like it is.

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Natedog 09-18-2016 01:09 PM

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That's normal. :)

dpcardoza 01-01-2017 02:21 PM

Re: Ascender Wheel Base & Link Reference Guide
 
Can somebody confirm the eye to eye lower link length and rear upper link length for wb3? I want to move over to ti links with revo rod ends so eye to eye is what I'm looking for.


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