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Natedog 04-03-2017 09:57 AM

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Not yet, I'll definitely update you if and when I do. :)

bradyrx70 04-03-2017 12:51 PM

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Hi Natedog,

Been looking through your threads can't find a pic of the location of the rear upper links in the risers.

fabbed some up for my blazer but think I may have gone a little high with the links as I broke the rear centre drive shaft diff yoke yesterday for the first time, wasn't even bound up 😞

Any chance you could snap a pic of the rear link mounts?

Thanks Andy

bradyrx70 04-03-2017 12:53 PM

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Sorry just read a couple of posts up and realised someone has already asked for the pics I need, sorry to be a pain.

I'll try and get some pics up later

Thanks
Andy

Natedog 04-03-2017 02:40 PM

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Hey Andy,
No problem, I overlooked that picture, will get one up soon. IIRC used the bottom hole, second from the front, the hole just below where Pete959 has his in post #345 here, but will double check mine to be sure. :)
http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/vater...newbie-18.html

TLR_junkie 04-03-2017 04:56 PM

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Nate what are those brackets? Double-dx-rcs something or other...

And I'm still confused on what you meant by mounting shocks outboard?

Natedog 04-03-2017 08:11 PM

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Double-DZS-RC from userid TODBLDZ here on RCC.

Shocks outboard, back a few pages, pictures of shocks mounted outside of lower link mounts on both front and rear axles. Upper mounts in stock location and no spacers added.

Natedog 04-03-2017 08:33 PM

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Pic of where I had rear upper links mounted, where paint is rubbed off. I now running them in lowest all the way forward hole.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...psuhpfnsta.jpg


Pictures from couple pages back, front outboard and showing tires clearance outboarded.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...psfhhkgkld.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...psaqzjkvu5.jpg

MattySlimz1987 04-03-2017 09:09 PM

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Hey Natedog, thats some serious steering angle right there!
Also I just wanted to comment on the type of terrain and scenery you crawl on.. down right gorgeous.
I've never been out west, but everytime I see a picture of big solid smooth rocks, redwood trees and cactus' it just gives me that urge to just pack up my me and my family and move out there on a whim..

TLR_junkie 04-03-2017 10:12 PM

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Nate do you sacrifice anything by mounting your shocks like that?

rag6 04-03-2017 10:39 PM

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I just did my rears, it def limits articulation. Have shock limiters in, but will probably have to take them out to get the range of movement back. I'm gonna test drive it first though

Natedog 04-03-2017 11:38 PM

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No loss of damping,lose little travel, so removed some limiters. My modified wb3 also leans rear shocks forward losing some travel and effectively softening the spring rate. So I setup using firm upper and lower springs in the rear to help climbing.

Natedog 04-04-2017 12:10 AM

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MattySlimz, thanks yes we're blessed with large granite slabs out here, but I've been to Virginia and there's lots of beautiful trailing there too, just different. 8) :)

Natedog 04-05-2017 03:51 PM

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Finished a few things last night. Vaterra aluminum shocks now limited internal 6mm at all four corners, STRC aluminum rear upper link mount with brace screw into pumpkin (front is next, thanks Yetistealth!), all four shocks outboard at axles only, playing with link locations. Liking my slightly higher stance and super smooth articulatioin! Rear shocks have Vaterra firm (dark green) upper and lower springs to compensate for modified WB2 (resulting in WB3 by using WB4 rear links), the leaned forward at the top shocks needed firmer springs to climb better. Still need to do something about that front bumper, but not sure what yet.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ps4ewunl3y.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...psevwvlras.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...psf7kvf6h4.jpg

TLR_junkie 04-06-2017 02:04 AM

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Looking good Nate!


Do you happen to know what springs come on the rtr versions? More specifically the blazer if it matters?

Natedog 04-06-2017 09:44 AM

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Thanks! RTR and kit come with silver (medium) upper and lower springs all around. "thumbsup"

TLR_junkie 04-06-2017 11:53 PM

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I see that you said you limited travel by 6mm on the inside of the shocks.. what does that do?

Right now my shocks are moved outboard at the axels only. I am at wheelbase 4 and going from bulky blazer to a custom k10 flatbed rig. I am staying wheelbase 4 but I just built custom rear shock mounts so I could also pitch my rear shocks forward. I may have to stiffen up the rear springs but so far it isn't bad.

Natedog 04-07-2017 12:17 AM

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Usually I like them limited 9mm internally on Ascender for my driving style and terrain. K10 is going more extreme crawler so I wanted little more flex, hence only 6mm limited. I also like outboard at axle only. Shocks leaning forward softens the effective spring rate and the rear will tend to tuck under and back flip on steep climbs. Stand them up like stock or run stiffer upper and lower springs or single stiff spring. Leaned forward may need little thicker shock oil or smaller piston holes too, depending on how you like it damped.

TLR_junkie 04-07-2017 07:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Natedog (Post 5693166)
Usually I like them limited 9mm internally on Ascender for my driving style and terrain. K10 is going more extreme crawler so I wanted little more flex, hence only 6mm limited. I also like outboard at axle only. Shocks leaning forward softens the effective spring rate and the rear will tend to tuck under and back flip on steep climbs. Stand them up like stock or run stiffer upper and lower springs or single stiff spring. Leaned forward may need little thicker shock oil or smaller piston holes too, depending on how you like it damped.

Yeah I built 2 different sets and I still have the stock ones. Once I get the rest of my build completed I'll go back and start tuning the suspension more. I'll get some pictures up soon on my thread, it's back on like page 16 right now, haha

TLR_junkie 04-07-2017 05:03 PM

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Nate do you happen to know the actual spring rate for the mediums? It would be helpful in selecting an off the shelf spring at my lhs to stiffen up the rear of my truck. I'm having a hard time spending nearly $80 on ascender springs if I can make something else work flor $10

Natedog 04-07-2017 06:38 PM

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Would be nice to have published actual spring rates, but I don't have these. In the absence of actual rates, I use the how squishy do they feel and stand the springs up on a table with a weight on them and a ruler next to them to measure compression using same weight. Often thought about building an actual spring test stand, but too many projects and the aforementioned methods work for me. Losi sells a useful shock matching tool.
Losi: Losi Shock Matching Tool: Losi (LOSA99170)


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