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Old 03-09-2020, 04:07 PM   #1
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So I’ve had my Ascender out a few times now and while it’s a great performer, I feel the stock springs are way too stiff. It seems very bouncy at anything more than a crawl. Are there some softer springs I can buy, or should I just replace the shocks entirely? I’d rather keep it as cheap as possible for now. Any advice appreciated.
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Old 03-09-2020, 05:18 PM   #2
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I tried replacing the shocks at one point but forgot that the Ascender uses longer shocks, I forget the exact length but not 90mm. this makes it harder to find replacements

I found that the Vaterra upgrade shocks work pretty good. https://www.rpphobby.com/product_p/vtr334017.htm

Vaterra had different spring rates available but they look to be discontinued unfortunately. Maybe look around on ebay or other places. I see there are still the upper springs available. You might be able to find other springs that at least fit the Vaterra shocks, I think the SCX10.2 springs are pretty close as I've used the Ascender springs on them.

The bouncy-ness might also come from being low on shock oil.

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Old 03-09-2020, 05:31 PM   #3
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Thanks for the info I’ll look into that. Not low on oil, just replaced with new 30wt with little change. Maybe easier to just replace the whole shock.
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Old 03-09-2020, 06:08 PM   #4
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I’d worry that the torque twist would worsen with softer springs.


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Old 03-10-2020, 07:16 AM   #5
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I'm running modified traxxas big bores up front with losi mini-t springs and the upgrade vaterra shocks in the rear with green losi springs (regular, not mini-t). Stock length is 108mm but a lot of guys like to run the stocks internally limited by ~5-8mm so running 100mm's should fit the bill.

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Old 03-11-2020, 11:25 AM   #6
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Good info so far, the stock RTR/kit springs are the medium rate upper and lower. Vaterra offered sets of soft/medium/firm in packs of uppers and separate lowers, might still be in stock at RPP, AMain or Tower Hobbies, I've got a couple packs that I've tuned with. Axial springs, Losi, should fit the Vaterra shocks. Bounciness probably from small shock piston holes, softer springs/oil will allow more torque twist unless doing the Rich Trujillo dual rate spring mod, rear swaybar, upper link relocation, shock outboarding. I like my stock and aluminum Vaterra shocks internally limited...9mm on the original Va'Blazer and 5mm on my K10 now with 1946 Dodge Power Wagon body.
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Vaterra offered sets of soft/medium/firm in packs of uppers and separate lowers, might still be in stock at RPP, AMain or Tower Hobbies, I've got a couple packs that I've tuned with.
Their listings are gone at both Amain, RPP and Horizon hobbies shows it as discontinued. But its possible someone still has a few sets somewhere.
I know I grabbed a set of these just last year.
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