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Old 03-06-2013, 04:04 PM   #641
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Agreed, I'm useing 500K and pretty happy with it. A buddy of mine put in the F locker and he's haveing issues of the dog bones ejecting also.
My front right has ejected twice so far. Not sure how it happened as the suspension didn't droop far enough to let it go. Anyways, I adjusted the camber a few degress towards the negative side of the spectrum (top pointing in towards the vehicle). I haven't "lost" a dogbone since I added negative camber, even on 3S, ripping around on asphalt. The jb weld in my diff let go eventually, so I pulled it apart and refilled it. Didn't put very much in there the first go around. Oh well, better than breaking dogbones or CVD pins.

Thread jack = over.

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Old 03-06-2013, 09:08 PM   #642
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what do you gents think about the tazer hop up power units being offered now?


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Old 03-08-2013, 12:01 PM   #643
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what do you gents think about the tazer hop up power units being offered now?


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Tazer 1/10 4 pole 2800Kv ESC/Motor Combo
Dynamite Tazer 1/10 4 pole 2800Kv ESC/Motor Combo (DYN4941C)
I personally wouldn't spend my money on it as an upgrade to the electronics, I would buy either a Holmes Hobbies setup or a Tekin setup. Keep in mind that I am picky about what electronics I run because I've been RC'ing for a very long time and have become accustomed to and appreciate running top of the line electronics.
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For those that want to run my config as a start on their Tekin RS ESC with ROC 412 motor, you can download my config using the below link (right click, save as) and the attached setup sheet.

http://www.rccrawler.com/files/Twin_...Badger_v223.rs
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Old 03-08-2013, 02:15 PM   #645
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[QUOTE=razors 33;4216490]what do you gents think about the tazer hop up power units being offered now?
If you only want to go fast maybe the price would be tempting. This rig is still cool to crawl with and a sensored system is essential, that cancels it out.
I too have cooked plenty of cheap combo's and now stay with the brands I know and trust.
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Old 03-08-2013, 04:29 PM   #646
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Thanks guys

Mine showed up today.

Just a quick check so far to make sure it works

What's is with the esc delay? I hope I can change that right quick on stock set up.?
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the delay is built into the ESC so you don't break electronics or drivetrain parts, it has smart stop, in order to go into reverse I think it needs to see neutral for 1 second or something, easy fix I did was turn on crawler mode in the ESC, it gives instant reverse (Warning: You Will destroy your drivetrain if you punch reverse while doing max speed in second) there will be no delay in throttle or reverse ever, making it feel nice and smooth, and it also gives more of a drag brake also, so what I have learned to do is just let off the throttle and it stops itself quite quickly.

Also my lipo cutoff was turned off from factory (Wtf.. it comes with a lipo!) so I had to enable it in the ESC settings.

Heres a link to the manual
http://www.horizonhobby.com/pdf/VTR03000_Manual_EN.pdf

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the delay is built into the ESC so you don't break electronics or drivetrain parts, it has smart stop, in order to go into reverse I think it needs to see neutral for 1 second or something, easy fix I did was turn on crawler mode in the ESC, it gives instant reverse (Warning: You Will destroy your drivetrain if you punch reverse while doing max speed in second) there will be no delay in throttle or reverse ever, making it feel nice and smooth, and it also gives more of a drag brake also, so what I have learned to do is just let off the throttle and it stops itself quite quickly.

Also my lipo cutoff was turned off from factory (Wtf.. it comes with a lipo!) so I had to enable it in the ESC settings.
My Lipo was turned off as well, almost killed my battery but was able to recover it.
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I'll have to go over mine with a fine tooth comb and change esc settings because how else are you supposed to stop fast in Stock configuration?

I hope the esc settings are in manual..
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i gave a link to the manual, it says how to do it all through remote programming, also, in stock configuration it does stop quickly with the smart brake, however u CANNOT stop quickly once you put it in crawler mode, you must rely on the drag brake to mostly stop then you can tap reverse when its going quite slow,

you can imagine.. with a real car, picture no brakes, using only down-shifting to stop (makes me think of the old days with my dirtbike, no brakes, stopping by down-shifting only hehe) if you slam the car into reverse at 20 kmh, what will happen? hehe
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Ya the online manual says its set for lipo cutoff but my hard copy that came in the box says its set for NiMH so I reprogrammed and hooked up my low voltage alarm for safe measure.... I also noticed that the hard copy is missing som for the programming stuff so I downloaded the esc instructions from horizon.

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Old 03-08-2013, 07:26 PM   #652
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Why you not running turbo or boost?
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:25 PM   #653
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Thanks for all the help guys

I took her for a, rip tonight bone stock out of box and if was fun, dark so nothing to over the top.

Took her back inside all dirty and began preventative mods

Figured out how to effectively remove the lid lol

Did shifting servo end point adjustment and reversed directions of high and low.

My esc was in nimh mode so I changed to lipo

I also softened up front spring rate.

I noticed in hard banked corners whie in high she wanted to roll quite a bit.

I'll have to figure that out.

I'm likely gunna take it out and test it good.


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My Lipo was turned off as well, almost killed my battery but was able to recover it.
Ok, being one of the new dummies I need to ask. How do I find if mine is set to lipo? And if not how do I set it to lipo? Thank you...Doc
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Ok, being one of the new dummies I need to ask. How do I find if mine is set to lipo? And if not how do I set it to lipo? Thank you...Doc
Never mind, found the full manual on line. Thanks anyway...Doc
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Why you not running turbo or boost?
The first reason is timing boost and turbo cannot be used while in D2 (Dual Drive) Mode. The second reason is because Ty @ Tekin said that it is not necessary to run advanced timing with 4-pole brushless motors.

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The timing is fixed at 0* like our 1/8 T8 motors and the Pro4 motors. You can reverse the direction on the ESC and run either way with no decrease in performance. I meant timing as in advance on the ESC, a little is ok but they do not respond to timing like 2-pole motors do. You can maybe squeak 15-200 rpm out of them, but it comes with added heat. After that the timing really is useless.

Trust me guys, you won't want or care about timing advance with these.

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Thanks for all the help guys

I also softened up front spring rate.

I noticed in hard banked corners whie in high she wanted to roll quite a bit.

I'll have to figure that out.

I'm likely gunna take it out and test it good.
Get at least a rear sway bar, that will help with the rolling at high speed. Amain has them in stock.

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Thanks dude

Ivd been in eyeing them up plus front locker
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Sorry for more questions guys

I am hoping someone could recommend some better servos for the twin hammers that can be purchased at Amainhobbies.

I know I am a pain but I don't really know which servos to get that aren't way over priced.

In particular my steering servo is starting to go I think
Weak and hardly wants to return to center, maybe all the donuts I've been doing are not good for it lol
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Sorry for more questions guys

I am hoping someone could recommend some better servos for the twin hammers that can be purchased at Amainhobbies.

I know I am a pain but I don't really know which servos to get that aren't way over priced.

In particular my steering servo is starting to go I think
Weak and hardly wants to return to center, maybe all the donuts I've been doing are not good for it lol
My OWN MYSTERY, for speed, and MY OTHER MYSTERY if you want torque.
Neither can be purchased. Don't let the price point fool you. I have ran these servos for months with daily abuse with zero failure. Both are quick to respond and center perfectly without error.

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sweet thanks; I'll definitely check em out.

what about shifting servo?




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The Solar D771, for speed, and the Solar D772 if you want torque.
Either can be purchased at Hobbypartz.com. Don't let the price point fool you. I have ran these servos for months with daily abuse with zero failure. Both are quick to respond and center perfectly without error.
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