MIP ..... Twin Hammers Thread

[MIP MATT]

Hey guys this is Matt over at MIP (Moores Ideal Products). We have been hearing alot of chatter about this new car and are intrigued to get one and start tearing into her!

But before that we wanted to consult the best of the best on this platform! As many of you know MIP specializes in drivetrain parts and with any platform in this industry there has to be a need or incentive for customers to gravitate towards aftermarket products over OEM.

So do you guys think that the Vaterra Twin Hammers drivetrain needs a dose of MIP lovin !?

[Soulo747]

ABSOLUTELY. Already snapped a rear drive shaft. I can damn near guarantee a return on your investment into this platform......

You got my vote and cash whenever youre ready.

[tedo]

yup.

[Antisimplistic]

I'd put a set in mine. I've heard the same from several people here.

[shwng1973]

Yes please.

[MIP MATT]

Originally Posted by Soulo747

ABSOLUTELY. Already snapped a rear drive shaft. I can damn near guarantee a return on your investment into this platform......

You got my vote and cash whenever youre ready.

Originally Posted by tedo

yup.

Originally Posted by Antisimplistic

I'd put a set in mine. I've heard the same from several people here.

Originally Posted by shwng1973

Yes please.

Awesome! Good to hear. From what I can gather by sifting around the threads is that the Rear Center Shaft is the problematic one? How is the front Center shaft holding up as well as the front suspension arm drives? How is the wear on the front diff outputs in regards to the pin/cup wear.

[blumaro]

Ill take a set for sure.

[Soulo747]

From what ive read and heard, the drive cups up front are very soft. Its a cvd at the knuckle and a dog bone at the diff, and the cups on the diff are wearing quickly. Front center is the same set up... half cvd, half dog bone. Not alot of problem there, its pretty well protected.

The center rear, however, is WEAK.

[MIP MATT]

Originally Posted by Soulo747

From what ive read and heard, the drive cups up front are very soft. Its a cvd at the knuckle and a dog bone at the diff, and the cups on the diff are wearing quickly. Front center is the same set up... half cvd, half dog bone. Not alot of problem there, its pretty well protected.

The center rear, however, is WEAK.

Good to know. We are going to be ordering one come Monday . With the input from you guys and other members it looks like the rear driveshaft will be a piece of cake we just have to modify an output which is no problem and while were at it we may make a front center shaft as well .

Now for the fronts, are they a CVD or CVA?

From what I hear people are breaking the front shafts when you lock up the front diff? And ya the metal must be of lower quality when it wears and notches like that. We will look into that as well but center shafts would be the first ones to come out

[spitfireat808]

Haha wraith drive shafts fit with a little shaving.

[spitfireat808]

Originally Posted by MIP MATT

Good to know. We are going to be ordering one come Monday . With the input from you guys and other members it looks like the rear driveshaft will be a piece of cake we just have to modify an output which is no problem and while were at it we may make a front center shaft as well .

Now for the fronts, are they a CVD or CVA?

From what I hear people are breaking the front shafts when you lock up the front diff? And ya the metal must be of lower quality when it wears and notches like that. We will look into that as well but center shafts would be the first ones to come out

The fronts are CVA.

[shwng1973]

Heck just make the fronts too. I'm sure all of us using brushless power on 3s would like it.

Now if we can find someone to make a better steering kit....lol

[badhoopty]

outdrives up front for sure.

please dont do the weird rounded edge hexes with the recessed slot running around them that are on the slash 4x4 keyed axles. those are horrible.

[Draggermirage]

The front driveshafts are VERY similar in design (if not identical) to the Losi Comp Crawler V3 fronts. I don't know about the materials used, but the Comp Crawler shafts rarely break although they do wear pretty quick.

If anything, I'd say concentrate on the rear driveshaft setup as it's the proven weak point for the time being. Fronts I'd address with probably a stronger diff cup as that's where it's wearing now.

Marcus

[ROLANDROCKSHOP]

MIP All around please!

[robvbro81]

Originally Posted by rolandrockshop

mip all around please!

x2!!!!

[DISTURBIN' tha PEACE]

Originally Posted by MIP MATT

Awesome! Good to hear. From what I can gather by sifting around the threads is that the Rear Center Shaft is the problematic one? How is the front Center shaft holding up as well as the front suspension arm drives? How is the wear on the front diff outputs in regards to the pin/cup wear.

Hi Matt, as you know, the rear shaft will be pretty easy for you to pump out. The front outdrives are a point of concern. Would it be possible to have a 1-piece spool made? I think more of us are concentrating on making these crawlers first & less pieces in the diff is always better.

Originally Posted by MIP MATT

Good to know. We are going to be ordering one come Monday . With the input from you guys and other members it looks like the rear driveshaft will be a piece of cake we just have to modify an output which is no problem and while were at it we may make a front center shaft as well .

Now for the fronts, are they a CVD or CVA?

From what I hear people are breaking the front shafts when you lock up the front diff? And ya the metal must be of lower quality when it wears and notches like that. We will look into that as well but center shafts would be the first ones to come out

Not sure the difference between CVD & CVA, but they sure look like every other CVD I've seen. If you do decide to make these, maybe you could design them around a new 1-piece front spool. No need for outdrives, just have CVD's on both sides with a slide shaft. Also, I'd say they need to have 50* of throw.

Another thing this is screaming for are hardened transmission gears, all of them.

Thanks! Money is burning a hole in my wallet.

[matt889]

I wouldn't recommend focusing on the rear driveshaft when the Wraith one works fine, but theres zero hop ups for the front ends that have dog-bones shearing off most trucks that has locked front diff, if you have't blown your front dog-bone pins yet, do a jump while hitting nose 1st while on the throttle some, boom broken, almost every time, MIP's would kick a$s for that! Make the rears later, fronts are dying for MIP!

[heinie_21]

Pretty cool that MIP is asking if consumers what we feel. The TWH Needs.

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[bashin calfee]

Need outdrives and for sure and i done broke 2 sets of front axles snapped the dog bones rite off