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Old 04-02-2013, 08:25 PM   #1
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Bought

FUZE 1/10 Sensored 17.5T ESC/MotorCombo

because hobby shop guy said its the perfect brushless system " going to be faster than that HH13T you have without the brushed hassle"

It's hella slow IMO only for crawling
I want to BASH!!!

So bought a tekin sensors gen2 10.5 motor
IS THIS GOING TO BE LIKE THE HH13t or faster?

BTW flashed the ESC to full power and it was still WAYYYYY TOOO SLOW.
Any input would help at this point have t opened up the tekin box yet.
Thanks guys
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Old 04-02-2013, 08:34 PM   #2
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10.5 will be quite a bit faster than the 13t from HH.
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10.5 will be quite a bit faster than the 13t from HH.
That's what I wanna hear!!!
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I personally think that is too fast of a motor for the handling of this rig but maybe with a bunch of tuning it would be OK.
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Never listen to the hobby shop guy, research it on RCC.
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Old 04-02-2013, 09:30 PM   #6
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I personally think that is too fast of a motor for the handling of this rig but maybe with a bunch of tuning it would be OK.
I like the speed of the brushed HH 13t so I'm going to program the ESC down a bit to match that speed.
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Old 04-02-2013, 09:32 PM   #7
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Never listen to the hobby shop guy, research it on RCC.
It was an impulse buy for sure. His idea of fast wasn't close to mine.
Definately asking you guys next time before hand

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Old 04-03-2013, 12:37 AM   #8
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Never listen to the hobby shop guy, research it on RCC.
Lmao, we have one of those!
Too true..
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Old 04-03-2013, 01:20 PM   #9
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5.5t is where its at ( 7400) kv if you really want to bash and mine handles just fine in grass or dirt just not pavement cause of the tires pinwheelin
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5.5t is where its at ( 7400) kv if you really want to bash and mine handles just fine in grass or dirt just not pavement cause of the tires pinwheelin
had that prob as well, but I put in hpi mini trophy truck lower control arms which were about an inch longer than stock. helped that prob 10 fold.
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Old 04-07-2013, 11:36 PM   #11
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5.5t is where its at ( 7400) kv if you really want to bash and mine handles just fine in grass or dirt just not pavement cause of the tires pinwheelin
im runnin a 7700kv castle and mmp. its pretty wicked and has awesome excel, but its easy to lose control. love getting 10-12 ft of air. finally found a weak point in either the rear axle or the locker, havent torn it down yet.
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im runnin a 7700kv castle and mmp. its pretty wicked and has awesome excel, but its easy to lose control. love getting 10-12 ft of air. finally found a weak point in either the rear axle or the locker, havent torn it down yet.
Probably one of the plastic axle hexes.
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Probably one of the plastic axle hexes.
BINGO. glad thats all it was. broke the dreaded shock tower tonight. next will be making it out of aluminum, sway bar and stiffer, more aggressive tires.
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I am thinking of putting a sidewinder sv3 and 4 pole 3800 castle brushless motor in mine. Can anyone comment on this setup?
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Old 04-17-2013, 10:57 PM   #15
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im currently running mmp and 17.5T fuze motor.... it sucks! I can hardly crawl with it and its not a high enough rpm... so I just picked up a velenion motor... well see what happens tomarrow! and ill be sure to tell you guys!
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I am thinking of putting a sidewinder sv3 and 4 pole 3800 castle brushless motor in mine. Can anyone comment on this setup?

Depends
2s or 3s? Sensored or sensorless?
On stock gearing with 3800 its gonna be really fast. And if it's ran at low crawling speeds at stock gearing the ESC might get hot. Also unless re-geared the slow speed operation will be choppy if a sensorless motor is used.

So far I'm liking the tekin roc 412 3100kV sensored setup I went with... and thanks to Badger for suggesting this setup in his thread. It was an expensive set up but well worth it!!!

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im currently running mmp and 17.5T fuze motor.... it sucks! I can hardly crawl with it and its not a high enough rpm... so I just picked up a velenion motor... well see what happens tomarrow! and ill be sure to tell you guys!
Velenion will be good for speed, but it's still sensorless and won't be smooth at low/crawling speeds like a comparable sensored motor would.
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So far I'm liking the tekin roc 412 3100kV sensored setup I went with... and thanks to Badger for suggesting this setup in his thread. It was an expensive set up but well worth it!!!
Does the roc have pretty good top end as well?
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On 2s it seems about the same as stock... but on 3s it's quite a bit faster. From slightly rolling backwards to full forward it can do back flips and land on its wheels

Do note that this setup is no longer "water proof" and necessary precautions would need to be taken if it was going to get substantially wet/submerged. Apparently sensored motors don't like water because of their sensors, but they can be made more water resistant; and that goes for ESCs as well.
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