Vertical front shock angle

[photon_trap]

Looking at the Blue Monkey front shock mount's multiple position options, I'm wondering what real, perceivable differences they make.

I know mounting a shock perpendicular to (or as near as possible) the nominal control arm position will be most efficient but I don't understand what moving the upper mount forward or backward (in the upper swiss cheese holes) will make.
Seems like you would only need one optimal position especially with all the adjustability good shocks allow. (?)

[twisted]

i myself dont believe it will make a good difference either. now if the shock was to be moved in towards the center of the car that would be a different story. front to back with an ifs will only cause binding.

[photon_trap]

Yep.
All those extra holes look horrible IMO. Sure they can be filled i know.

[CodyCrawler]

I put 3 holes in my vertical shock mount. I had the shock in the most vertical point and the dog bone actually came out of the cup from the shock extending too far. I raked the shock back toward the cab the the most laid back point and no more issues with the dog bone coming out.

[Generis]

We used a machined hoop with only one mount hole for ours, but it was designed and prototyped a few times to get the geometry just right. Once it's in place, I have no idea why more holes would be needed.

[photon_trap]

Originally Posted by Generis

I have no idea why more holes would be needed.

maybe to make it look goofy?

[docsrcrepair]

Its just like most rc cars they market..they put a bunch of holes in the suspension for adjusting..honestly I've tried them and it make the suspension bind and work awkward.. they do it for marketing that its adjustable.. I've actually heard people say, ohh this new buggy has all these adjustments and changing suspension link locations..blah blah blah.. I just look at them and ask how many times they've used all the different holes..

[photon_trap]

Originally Posted by docsrcrepair

blah blah blah

Ha! I TOTALLY agree! Well, maybe it works sometimes, but it led me to fabricate.
I would accept the design were it not for all the look of the upper part of the mount. Oh well

[wlsmoku]

I think it's because each manufacturer is a touch did on length of shock, so having the correct position for your specific shock allows for an "all in one" featured shock mount. As stated above when another member moved his back his dog bone stopped popping out. That's because the more angled the shock changes, the less vertical travel that specific shock will have.

[photon_trap]

Originally Posted by wlsmoku

another member moved his back his dog bone stopped popping out. That's because the more angled the shock changes, the less vertical travel that specific shock will have.

My personal experiences have reflected the basic geometry you would expect, shock perpendicular to the rotational axis of the arm works best, all other things being equal.
I don't know where that person started or ended up, or any other particulars.
Less travel achieved by mounting location results in reduced efficiency of the damper in any application 1:1 or scale.
All said, there are obviously other reasons for differing mounting locations, I realize.
My gripe, (and this is just me) is I hate one size fits all parts that's all, esp when they are ugly

[wlsmoku]

Def agree with that!!

[johnnyh66]

Originally Posted by docsrcrepair

I just look at them and ask how many times they've used all the different holes..

When I was younger I went around trying every hole I could find!
But now that I'm older, I've settled on one hole and am pretty happy with it... sure, sometimes I dream of using a new hole but that's just more trouble than it's worth.

[wlsmoku]

Lmfao....well played......well played!

[zidaro]

Originally Posted by johnnyh66

When I was younger I went around trying every hole I could find!
But now that I'm older, I've settled on one hole and am pretty happy with it... sure, sometimes I dream of using a new hole but that's just more trouble than it's worth.

Ohhh, do i know what you are saying!!