How to get rid of flips when cornering fast?

[swissete]

It happens already with stock configuration and 2S so definitely won't be much on its wheels when moved to brushless and 3S . What would I need to change apart from adding sway bars?

[mnickolson]

Biggest help for cornering would be to change rear diff from locked to open which will help but bad for crawling. If intersted just search the forums I know it has been done.

[MeanTT]

Originally Posted by mnickolson

Biggest help for cornering would be to change rear diff from locked to open which will help but bad for crawling. If intersted just search the forums I know it has been done.

I respectfully disagree. You should get the swaybar kits fro both front and rear. I run the medium bar, and it makes a huge difference. You might also want to set up some negative camber in the front to prevent the edge of the tire from biting into the ground.

You also want to lower your center of gravity. That means relocating the battery. You can either locate it to the chassis and relocate some of the electronics, or get a GCM front shock mount and relocate the battery to above the steering. In the end, the spare tire is a huge problem from a performance standpoint and some people replace it with a portion of foam rubber and then run a cover over the foam so it LOOKS like a tire but doesn't add the weight of a tire. Apparently this helps a lot too!

I have found that by running heavier beadlock rims, hub extenders which give me about an extra inch of width, and the sway bars, I have drastically improved the stability. I have not relocated the battery.

[photon_trap]

Yea, open rear diff will help you go straight under power but have little effect with speed induced flipping in corners. (comparatively)
Lower the CG by any and all means (esp that unnecessary tire at high altitude), add sway bars.
And if you are focused on going fast, the last thing you need is added unsprung weight - that's any parts that move with the suspension, tires, wheels etc. Add weight (lead) to the chassis down low instead.
Crawling is another story, If you want the kit to be best at that, forget swaybars, and add heavy wheels and lock the diffs.
It's all about compromise

[Corrupt]

I've seen the biggest performance increase from wheel wideners and having less preload on the shocks..

-Corrupt

[Farmers00]

wider stance helps alot. But you also want to keep it light. Basically everything Photon_trap said plus wheel wideners will increase the stability. Also, the tires. If your doing track racing, get some track tires. The high and soft side walls on crawler tires dont work the best for going fast and turning.

[Szczerba]

You should not widen the track width. Sway bars, lower cg, shock, oil and spring setup will get you better results.

Out of the box, I put 8mm external shock limiters on the rear shocks.

[mnickolson]

Originally Posted by photon_trap

Yea, open rear diff will help you go straight under power but have little effect with speed induced flipping in corners. (comparatively)
Lower the CG by any and all means (esp that unnecessary tire at high altitude), add sway bars.
And if you are focused on going fast, the last thing you need is added unsprung weight - that's any parts that move with the suspension, tires, wheels etc. Add weight (lead) to the chassis down low instead.
Crawling is another story, If you want the kit to be best at that, forget swaybars, and add heavy wheels and lock the diffs.
It's all about compromise

I will also respectfully disagree that open diff's will not help cornering and I am not try'n to start a big discussion. Look at any short track 4 wheel drive and it will have open rear diff. The biggest reason being in a turn wheel speed changes from outer tire to inner tire thus the advantage of the open diff is to let the left and right wheel speed be different and really has nothing to do with going stright. LSD is a hole nother can of worm's. Google it and you should find a lot of info on this subject.

[photon_trap]

Originally Posted by mnickolson

I will also respectfully disagree that open diff's will not help cornering and I am not try'n to start a big discussion.

Funny, I missed the part where I said that.

[photon_trap]

Originally Posted by Corrupt

I've seen the biggest performance increase from wheel wideners and having less preload on the shocks..

-Corrupt

Maybe, but the added moment has always given me the creeps - ha

[mnickolson]

Originally Posted by photon_trap

Funny, I missed the part where I said that.

This is what I was refering to.

photon_trap "open rear diff will help you go straight under power but have little effect with speed induced flipping in corners"

[photon_trap]

Originally Posted by mnickolson

I should have qouted both you and MeanTT but mainly this is what I was refering to.

photon_trap "open rear diff will help you go straight under power but have little effect with speed induced flipping in corners"

Do you not understand the next word that I wrote? maybe you can google it.

[ndi_guy]

Throttle control helps too!

Sorry, just had to be a smart a$$.

[photon_trap]

Originally Posted by ndi_guy

Throttle control helps too!

Sorry, just had to be a smart a$$.

Ha!
I think the original request is impossible without some of that for sure