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Old 08-08-2017, 12:05 AM   #1
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Default Stop wheelies

Pinion: 25T
Spur: Stock
ESC/Motor: Castle Creations Mamba X SCT 1/10 Brushless Combo w/1410 Sensored Motor

Stock kit.

Issue: Want less wheelies.
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Old 08-08-2017, 12:09 AM   #2
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Default Re: Stop wheelies

Stiffer rear shocks and sway bar may help. Also could try extending your rear wheel base by adding longer control arms.

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Old 08-08-2017, 12:14 AM   #3
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You could try some setting mods in the castle link, soften the punch a bit (or whatever they call it there now). It sounds like you have plenty of traction and plenty of power you just need to tame the output... you could also try slacking off the slipper a bit or more weight in the front end.
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Old 08-08-2017, 01:02 AM   #4
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I've made the throttle curve really curved, but in all honesty haven't noticed much difference because it will wheelie still to easily.

I'm after settings on the actual car, like the suspension/arm mounting points.

I made the stock suspension as stiff as possible... no difference.
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Old 08-08-2017, 02:50 AM   #5
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A softer suspension will be less prone to wheelies due to the suspension soaking up some of the power, but for the most part you probably have so much power in the car that they will happen aside from throwing a wheelie bar on it. The motor/esc/battery combo is putting out more power then the weight of the vehicle can counteract. The mechanical options to correct this without modifying the esc settings is;

-more weight forward so it has more leverage against the torque

-longer rear links to move weight forward by moving the pivot point back

-softer rear suspension to a point

-rear tires with less traction so they just spin instead of grip

-if it is available for this car overdrive the front and underdrive the rear so
it is pulling with the front more then pushing with the back

-wheelie bar

Other then that all I can think of is be gentle on the throttle, feather the trigger instead of being rough with it, when it starts to come up let up a bit.
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Old 08-08-2017, 03:33 AM   #6
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First, easiest thing worth doing is removing the spare tyre.
Second is looking at moving the battery into the chassis tray or up front.
These things will give an all round benefit, and definitely help stop wheelies.
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Old 08-08-2017, 08:31 AM   #7
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And some nice beadlocks would help plant it down also
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Old 08-08-2017, 08:34 AM   #8
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Weight op front.
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Old 08-08-2017, 06:40 PM   #9
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Default Re: Stop wheelies

I find it a little worse handling without the rear tire, and it also kind of acts like a wheelie bar.

I like the sound of "-if it is available for this car overdrive the front and underdrive the rear so it is pulling with the front more then pushing with the back" anyone know if it is?

I'll also look in to some lead weights for the front.

With regard to stiffening the suspension causing more wheelies... logically it makes sense that the suspension soaks up some of the power when compressing, but it also lowers the pivot point which seems to make it wheelie more... I'll do some more tests.

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Old 08-10-2017, 08:58 AM   #10
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have you considered the GCM front plate? I just ordered one off ebay for $75. It replaces the cantilever front suspension with shock hoops for a more scale look, you will need 90mm shocks to replace the short ones. The battery sits on top of the plate with Velcro. Check out their youtube vids, I found them really helpful, good luck.
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Old 08-10-2017, 11:34 AM   #11
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are both front wheels lifting equally, or is one raising more than the other? If the right side is raising more than the left, try using a stiffer spring on the rear left shock. ( or vice versa ) This worked great with my yeti that loved to wave the front right tire under heavy acceleration
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Old 09-02-2017, 07:11 PM   #12
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Scorched parts on Shapeways.com makes a bellcrank steering/front shock tower and a battery relocater. That would bring the weight foward.
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