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Old 02-19-2009, 12:06 PM   #1
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Hey guys I just bought some panthers for my creeper (LHS didn't have rovers) and I mounted them up on my creeper wheels, but they keep falling of the beed. Am I doing somthing wrong or is there a trick or can you only run the venom tires on the creepers wheels?
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Old 02-19-2009, 01:21 PM   #2
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They should work, Explain how you mounted them... You should have made sure the tire was tucked in to the slot in the wheel then tighten the screws at "12" and '6" then "3" and "9" then fill in the others, make sure you tighten them snug. if it dont work......time for new beadlocks!
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Old 02-19-2009, 01:46 PM   #3
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I made sure that they were in the groove, but I didn't thighten the way you said. I just went in a circle. Thats probly my problem. Thats
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Old 02-19-2009, 01:59 PM   #4
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NO NO NO NO silly, venom creeper rims are for a special type of bead, man come on, can you not see the difference in the beed on the tires go down and look at the bead man, it dont even look the same,, i dont even thing venom has any different tires for that rim yet, but no they wont hold, just need to get a new set of rims, should be able to get set for around 30 bucks for 4 if you price around

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Old 02-19-2009, 03:44 PM   #5
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NO NO NO NO silly, venom creeper rims are for a special type of bead, man come on, can you not see the difference in the beed on the tires go down and look at the bead man, it dont even look the same,, i dont even thing venom has any different tires for that rim yet, but no they wont hold, just need to get a new set of rims, should be able to get set for around 30 bucks for 4 if you price around


Ummmm No.......You Fail.. Many of us are running stock creeper rims with other tires....Nice try though

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Old 02-19-2009, 04:17 PM   #6
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hahaha lizard017 do you even have a creeper?
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Old 02-19-2009, 04:19 PM   #7
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Old 02-19-2009, 04:39 PM   #8
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I have seen plenty of creeper wheels with different tires, so I know it can be done. I just thought you guys were maybe glueing them on which would be a waste of the beadlock. Thanks for the input from the guys that have the creeper.
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Old 02-19-2009, 04:43 PM   #9
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Also are the panthers good or should I have waited for the rovers? I toke the memory foam out of the panhers and put a harder black foam in them because thats what the guy from the LHS said would work best. And yes I am a newbie at the crawling world.
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Old 02-19-2009, 05:56 PM   #10
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I would have got the rovers myself, the pnthers are a pretty good tire....but its not a rover
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Old 02-19-2009, 06:06 PM   #11
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ok, the dam bead is so dam different how without glueing do they hold, got a machine to melt and make the bead match that of the creeper tires, its just not logical, well, sry, and no but i had talked to someone that had one and they said they talked to the manufacture and they said it had to have that special bead, so sorry i was given bad info, sry sry sry,,, ok im a dunce i got it
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Old 02-19-2009, 06:12 PM   #12
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HAHA Its all in fun man! Just busting your balls a bit.... We know they "are not" susposed to fit but they do, It just squishes the bead in there...who cares if it "fits" if it dont slip it works.
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Old 02-19-2009, 07:48 PM   #13
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1/4 elliptic thanks for the info;). I put them on how you said and have been crawling on my course here at the house for about an hour and no slip and no pulling off the rim. Panthers are alot better then the stock, but it sounds like I should have waited for the rovers
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Old 02-19-2009, 08:32 PM   #14
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Reading material for ya.

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TCS has them on sale too!

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Old 02-19-2009, 10:23 PM   #15
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Well... I just finished up what I can before I contact customer support so I can finish my creeper build... anyway back on topic.

I ordered the rovers along with the creeper... they WILL fit creeper beadlox's... more of a pain in the ass than its worth installing them if ya ask me...after i did one I said F it and just mounted the stockers for now... I'll get some after market rims for the rovers... I planed that anyway so no biggie to me
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Old 02-20-2009, 12:24 AM   #16
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I would have got the rovers myself, the pnthers are a pretty good tire....but its not a rover
Yeah, the Panthers are only the defending 2.2 National Champion and multiple time regional event winners.

The Rovers are a good tire, but don't sell the Panther short.

As for the mounting issue, I mounted Panthers on my Creeper wheels w/o issue and they hold the bead just fine.
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Old 02-20-2009, 12:34 AM   #17
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I'm guiding one now and noticed the bead is definitely different. I'm sore some tires will fit and hold even if the rim technically isn't made for them.
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Old 02-20-2009, 01:49 AM   #18
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I've mounted Flat Irons on mine without too much difficulty.
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Old 02-21-2009, 09:27 AM   #19
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yea... just leave them alone or get some new rims... the rims are one off style. so different rims are going to be a challenge..... i think alum weights make the suspension a little better, more weight.
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Yeah, the Panthers are only the defending 2.2 National Champion and multiple time regional event winners.

The Rovers are a good tire, but don't sell the Panther short.

As for the mounting issue, I mounted Panthers on my Creeper wheels w/o issue and they hold the bead just fine.
heads up if you run a soft tire like the panthers, be sure you dont have any sharp hang up points to grab and tear your tires, like the bolt on the rear, it holds the rear wheels to the rod.... i ground mine down flush with the nut after having my wheels get bound up from it, and that was running in freezing weather, so they can only get softer as it get warm.

I wound up moving those rods in front of the axle so thats a non issue with how its setup now.
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