Aluminum shock upgrade

[1\4elliptic toy]

Hey all, I have recently added the venom upgraded aluminum shocks (ven-4020), they are a great easy upgrade. All I did was use the stock plastic top and ball end and put in the stock internal springs I am running the red springs that come with the kit...They are a must have. I took a 30 foot roller and they held up like a champ and they are nice and smooth.... Its what I will be running at the WCC this weekend in the pro-class....Wish me luck!

[peyton.]

[kasper]

Good luck man i need to finish my upgrades on the venom next week .

[TomEGunn]

Originally Posted by 1\4elliptic toy

Its what I will be running at the WCC this weekend in the pro-class....Wish me luck!

Good luck, get some GREEN

Show then boys what a Creeper can do. And keep us posted.

[imotox]

I just bought some Fast Lane Machine alum. shocks ill let you guys know what I think when I get them.

[codydray]

good luck and thanks for the info

[JUSTGOINGSLOW]

RcBros has aluminum shock bodies 2 for $12, you can get all 4 bodies for the price of 2 venom (Ven-4020) ones.

[imotox]

Here are the FLM shock bodies on my creeper. So far so good.

[firekiddc02]

Looks good keep us updated im interested in these for my creeper.

[Newbee1973]

I'm runnig those to, they are nice

[Sean C]

I'm new to crawling just got my new creeper and was doing some set up reserch and noted that some people where mounting ther shocks piston side up what is that for?

[Newbee1973]

Originally Posted by Sean C

I'm new to crawling just got my new creeper and was doing some set up reserch and noted that some people where mounting ther shocks piston side up what is that for?

It's to lower the CG

[Rockfrog]

Well, to add my experience to this -
I installed the Venom 4020's and ... well ... I'm going to be getting the FLM shock bodies instead. If someone wants the 4020's PM me and we'll work something out.
Pro's - aluminum, smooth (sort of), Seem fairly durable, larger bore than stock, come supplied with two decent set of springs (I ran blues rear, reds front)
Con's - leak due to poor o-ring seal design, when finger tight they spit the o-ring seal out due to lack of an internal chamfer to help retain the o-ring, poor quality control on the shock balls (had to drill out two of them to fit 3mm screws through).

Honestly, I'm not sure why they chose to stray from the use of shock bladders and go with a single o-ring sealed cap (perhaps they were supposed to use a shock bladder ... but none were supplied with mine). This type of design has been used before and failed for the same reasons. Had they simply created an inside chamfer on the cap the tendency to spit the o-ring out during tightening - merely finger tight - would have been prevented (they arrived tighter than I could get them after adding oil) and the shocks would have lived up to expectations (retaining oil in the oil filled shock). My personal view is the shocks supplied with the creeper are of a better design than the Venom 4020's ... although the downside is they are plastic, and may tend to have issues with the adjusters, FLM has supplied the needed solution to that can of worms.
Had venom simply made an Aluminum version of their stock Creeper shock they would have had a clear winner here ... as it is, I suppose they are a fairly decent shock, I may decide to chamfer the caps to cure the biggest problem with the shock as I see it. Another option I thought of was to use heat shrink to retain the o-ring after assembly, but that's just a band-aid on a sucking chest wound.
The shocks work great ... up until you need to add oil again, and to be honest ... only two have done this ... the other two seems to be holding up fine. Perhaps the supplied o-rings themselves are of issue, which again points to quality control. I really want to like the shocks but .... :?
This is just my experience with the shocks, take it for what it is, my opinion ... I really hope I just got a bad set, twice.

[Newbee1973]

Originally Posted by Rockfrog

Well, to add my experience to this -
I installed the Venom 4020's and ... well ... I'm going to be getting the FLM shock bodies instead. If someone wants the 4020's PM me and we'll work something out.
Pro's - aluminum, smooth (sort of), Seem fairly durable, larger bore than stock, come supplied with two decent set of springs (I ran blues rear, reds front)
Con's - leak due to poor o-ring seal design, when finger tight they spit the o-ring seal out due to lack of an internal chamfer to help retain the o-ring, poor quality control on the shock balls (had to drill out two of them to fit 3mm screws through).

Honestly, I'm not sure why they chose to stray from the use of shock bladders and go with a single o-ring sealed cap (perhaps they were supposed to use a shock bladder ... but none were supplied with mine). This type of design has been used before and failed for the same reasons. Had they simply created an inside chamfer on the cap the tendency to spit the o-ring out during tightening - merely finger tight - would have been prevented (they arrived tighter than I could get them after adding oil) and the shocks would have lived up to expectations (retaining oil in the oil filled shock). My personal view is the shocks supplied with the creeper are of a better design than the Venom 4020's ... although the downside is they are plastic, and may tend to have issues with the adjusters, FLM has supplied the needed solution to that can of worms.
Had venom simply made an Aluminum version of their stock Creeper shock they would have had a clear winner here ... as it is, I suppose they are a fairly decent shock, I may decide to chamfer the caps to cure the biggest problem with the shock as I see it. Another option I thought of was to use heat shrink to retain the o-ring after assembly, but that's just a band-aid on a sucking chest wound.
The shocks work great ... up until you need to add oil again, and to be honest ... only two have done this ... the other two seems to be holding up fine. Perhaps the supplied o-rings themselves are of issue, which again points to quality control. I really want to like the shocks but .... :?
This is just my experience with the shocks, take it for what it is, my opinion ... I really hope I just got a bad set, twice.

I had the same problem, but I fixed it with some luiquid gasket, and that seems to hold up fine.

[gbean]

Super old thread, I know. Buy what do people think of these venom 4020 shocks these days? A full set can be had on ebay for $25...

[winnerone23]

Lcc shocks.. 25-30$ on the for sale section..

[gbean]

NOt really anything in the FS section that I can find....
I may try HPI 117MM shocks or THESE

[arthurc10]

Just bought those shocks on eBay. I will post results when they get here. Will be going on my tube chassis, bought them for the length.

[gbean]

"Those" as in HPI or "Those" as in Venom?

[gbean]

I just ordered the venom set. To good a deal to pass. Let us know your review Arthurc10..