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Old 12-19-2009, 08:14 AM   #1
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Has anyone tried running an outrunner on a creeper? Im pretty new at the crawling game, but I do have access to a lot of outrunners here locally. The other thing with this is what kind of wheel speed should I be shooting for? Just a close estimate so I can run some numbers.
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Old 12-21-2009, 04:23 AM   #2
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Mine ha walking pace - about 5km/h

I will keep track of my local routes this way.
I'm using a bluetooth-GPS that I connect to my PDA - by doing it this way I can reduce weight on the creeper and I can read the GPS on the PDA whenever I want.

As the BT has >10Meters range I see no problem with connectivity or dropping signal as I almost always are next to the car anyway (except for filming that is)

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Old 12-21-2009, 05:32 AM   #3
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Mine ha walking pace - about 5km/h

I will keep track of my local routes this way.
I'm using a bluetooth-GPS that I connect to my PDA - by doing it this way I can reduce weight on the creeper and I can read the GPS on the PDA whenever I want.

As the BT has >10Meters range I see no problem with connectivity or dropping signal as I almost always are next to the car anyway (except for filming that is)
what kind of tire will you be using?
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Old 12-21-2009, 05:37 AM   #4
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As is right now I'm running stock tires - but will most likely change to something better later on - now we have 50Cm snow here so no rides for a while...

stock is:127 x 55 (R2.2)

So some calcs should be pretty straight forward...my motor is Fifty-five
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Mine ha walking pace - about 5km/h

I will keep track of my local routes this way.
I'm using a bluetooth-GPS that I connect to my PDA - by doing it this way I can reduce weight on the creeper and I can read the GPS on the PDA whenever I want.

As the BT has >10Meters range I see no problem with connectivity or dropping signal as I almost always are next to the car anyway (except for filming that is)
Hahahaha, he didnt mean out run it, he meant using a outrunner motor.
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Old 12-21-2009, 09:16 AM   #6
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We used to use around 1000 kv outrunners, but the stutter on start up was a killer.

Once that can was spinning though, it was alllllll power.
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Old 12-21-2009, 09:01 PM   #7
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Yes I know EeePee. Spent many a beer sitting down reading it all. I'm doing some research using some of my aircraft outrunner knowledge to do something about the stuttering. I been chatting with another member and I think both of us will have attempts made in two different directions. I've run brushless exclusively for my aircraft and with a little theory in practice hope to come up with a good endproduct.
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Hahahaha, he didnt mean out run it, he meant using a outrunner motor.
I know he means outrunners (motors)

What I'm after is that you:
know the gear ratio
know the wheel diameter
know the speed

Then you can calculate how many RPM's the motor must have to get similar result...easy maths

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I know he means outrunners (motors)

What I'm after is that you:
know the gear ratio
know the wheel diameter
know the speed

Then you can calculate how many RPM's the motor must have to get similar result...easy maths

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That is exactly why asked about wheel speeds and then what kind of tire where being run. It would be best to know what the comp guys w/ hb rovers are running for gearing and top speeds.
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There might be a few ways to overcome this...
By changing the curve on the TX to the throttle and/or by programming soft start in the ESC.

If not 1 of the above helps you can try with both


I changed the curve to allow smoother start on my Creeper (RX programming)
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There might be a few ways to overcome this...
By changing the curve on the TX to the throttle and/or by programming soft start in the ESC.

If not 1 of the above helps you can try with both


I changed the curve to allow smoother start on my Creeper (RX programming)
Yeah, I won't have any special programming to do until I upgrade my JR 8103 to 2.4. Then Ill have more than enough channels for my needs.
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Yes I know EeePee. Spent many a beer sitting down reading it all.
Sounds like a good use of time.

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