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04-04-2010, 06:37 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: ...the burning end of the rope.
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|  on the Creeper wagon,,,,
This thread is a progression of my build from day one through the current configuration below... EDITED STATS of what the RIG has now Venom Creeper kit 2.2 Sportsman Rig RMDW VULTURE XR-X Slant CHASSIS RMDW Paradox Dual Disk Foams RMDW Paradox Pin Lox cvd pin retainers RMDW Paradox Rear Axle Truss RMDW Paradox Front Axle Truss RMDW Paradox Truss mounted BTL servo plate RMDW Paradox BTA steering linkage RMDW Paradox Lincoln Lockers front and rear RMDW Paradox Battery plate RMDW Paradox XR-chassis stiffener kit CBRB Titanium rear axle shafts Rovers White Dot siped Integy 55t lathe motor 19 tooth pinion 40.8:1 final drive gear ratio Novak The Dig, dig switch JR DS-8711 servo, mounted inverted Robitronic long aluminum servo horn CC BEC 10amp Tekin FX/R esc, mounted to front of motor 3S lipo Lipo on front axle Traxxas Steel yokes and Long Truck Shafts cut to fit, 3 piece spring shaft in front Losi 4" shocks w/ White springs and 25wt oil Spektrum DX3E 2.4 ghz radio w/ SR300 Rx (decased) Hot Racing Aluminum C's Axial AX10 Zero Ackerman knuckles Hot Racing Aluminum rear lock outs 2.2 1.5" wide CKRC Link "Murdered Out" Wheels w/ Berg Gold rings Shaved axle housings Modified front suspension for 50*+ steering angle RC4WD XVD axle shafts in the front Hot Racing Aluminum Trans Skid plates 3.5mm bullet connectors for motor disconnects and the battery/esc Droop rear suspension, Sprung front suspension, stretched stock Creeper internal springs used front and rear The rear lower links are stock lower links with the long bend straightened and 1.25" cut off to retain the 12.5" wheel base. Front and rear lower links are relocated to the side plates and the transmission is resupported by adding 4 rod end balls back in under the trans to take the place of the stock links. The rear upper links are stock. Front Upper links are custom delrin. Current Photo RTR weight 5.2 pounds....currently, no additional weight in the wheels.    Current Team Paradox Members and Drivers: Thomas Ritchie/ME!...2.2 Sportsman/2.2s/2.2 Pro MOA Derrek Jojola/jojo303d...2.2 Pro/2.2 Sportsman/2.2s Wayne Babin/zukdogz400...2.2 Sportsman/2.2s Thomas Chapman/chappy4o...2.2 Sportsman/2.2s Robert Kersey/CreeperBob...2.2 Sportsman/2.2s Dalton Kayser/venomcrawlerdud...2.2 Pro/2.2 Sportsman/2.2s...Ax trans Sam Reynolds/Viper6171...2.2 Sportsman/2.2s Last edited by rmdesignworks; 06-04-2012 at 03:11 PM. |
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04-04-2010, 07:02 PM
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| RCC Addict Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Plainfield, IL.
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Cool, cant wait to see your build. Are you planning on selling BTA kits if you can figure one out?
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04-04-2010, 08:29 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: ...the burning end of the rope.
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The plan for the BTA is to fab a front axle plate that turns the servo around (horn inward toward the chassis)and move it close to the left front tire,,making room for a lipo n the right side,,from what I have seen Im thinking a high rise drag link and then Ill have to see about the pitman link. Once I get the Creeper and start really messin around with it ill start posting some build pics and some ideas about some stuff Im thinkin for mine. |
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04-04-2010, 09:12 PM
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Ive been thinkin about the chassis,,and I am really leaning toward the bodiless,,but i really like the RAT ROD's and 34 Ford PU's and I already have a tvp chassis design along those lines....we will see though once the Creeper gets here.
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04-04-2010, 09:26 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: ...the burning end of the rope.
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Here's what I am thinkin for mine
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04-04-2010, 10:37 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: north phoenix
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looks different i like it... you should try to do a cantilever setup that chassis could work .....
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04-04-2010, 10:44 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Indiana
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To do BTA all you have to do is turn the servo around and bend a link and call it a day. Its not that hard. I got mine perfect on the first try. Not the best pic, but you should get the just of it.  |
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04-05-2010, 04:51 PM
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I was thinkin about it off and on today at work,,,I know I know,,shame on me,,,but I may try to fab the mounts necessary to mate the axles and tranny to one of my GX2 chassis'. I had figured out awhile ago with the GX2's how to eliminate torque twist on a shafty, and axle steer isnt any problem with a GX2 anyway. I figure I can pull off around 2.5-3 inches of ground clearance which is about normal,,,still run the lipo on the front axle and the esc on the rear...one shock/spring for the front axle and one for the rear. Ive always thought a "stick" chassis shafty would be cool as hell,,,and there would little to less then normal above axle weight which means more weight tuning in the axles/wheels for weight bias. And besides,,,a bta would be cake with no links in the way. |
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04-06-2010, 08:42 PM
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got an update on the Creeper,,it just shipped today,,,so much for having it mid week,,, Ive decided to do a hibrid chassis,,,and I am getting some Creeper parts from Jkwrangler tomorrow,,,thanks Ron,,can do a bit of testing on some things I wanna check before the Creeper gets here. Ive got a bit of cad to do too. |
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04-07-2010, 08:29 PM
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I met with Ron tonight and he was more than generous,,he passed on a complete Creeper tranny with dig,,,Ill pull it for now...may or may not use it later. Axle internals(complete diffs),,knuckles,,chassis,,C's,,extra main shaft. One thing I am gonna do is lay the tranny on its side..Ill make a new skid for the stock chassis plates and try that set up first until I can get new chassis parts made. |
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04-07-2010, 08:51 PM
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| Quarry Creeper  Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Derby
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You're most welcome!! Glad to see the parts being used by a local guy.. Have fun with it. I can't wait to see what you come up with  |
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04-09-2010, 06:03 PM
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The Big Brown van stopped by today and dropped off a package of colorful parts and stickers....guess Ill build a Creeper
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04-10-2010, 01:49 PM
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I started the build last night,,and I have decided to build it stock first and see how it is,,then Ill start making changes,,chassis,,links,,shocks,,etc...but I am changing out the stock tires and foams for Rovers and my foams.
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04-10-2010, 03:57 PM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Greentown
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Sounds good man! Keep us updated |
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04-11-2010, 05:42 PM
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Got my Creeper done...Fried my BEC and Ive lost Channel 1 in the Rx. Ill get pics downloaded and on here soon. Last edited by rmdesignworks; 04-13-2010 at 05:54 PM. |
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04-12-2010, 05:12 AM
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last night I had a bunch of pics uploaded and ready from photobucket and went to submit the post and got a "database error" from the website,,was too tired to do it again once the site was back up,,Ill get them on today after work
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04-12-2010, 03:29 PM
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I decided to build it pretty much stock a few exceptions,, I replaced the upper chassis plate with a couple of aluminum tube standoffs,,the front one is bent to fit around the motor. Novak Rooster Crawler 2S when I want to just mess around on the rocks/bashing 3S Normally Integy 55T motor for now 19T pinion Traxxas metal yokes at the tranny Traxxas drive shafts Diffs locked using a cut coil spring Shocks mounted to chassis plates Rovers White dot Custom Dual Disk foams Eritex Comp Heavy wheels, drilled and mod'ed No Axle Skids HR Rear steer lock-outs DS 8711 hi-torque MG servo,,Modified servo horn HR C-Hubs HR Knuckles Custom BTA Custom battery/servo plate for the front axle Custom upper link plate for the rear axle I drilled a hole into the top of both diff housings and threaded the holes for an M3 grub screw so it is real easy to grease the axles. There arent any locker parts in the axles other than the diff lock and gears.             Last edited by rmdesignworks; 06-09-2010 at 07:03 PM. |
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04-12-2010, 04:12 PM
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Heres a close up of the grease port on the rear axle,,the front has one too  |
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04-13-2010, 05:58 PM
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Til I get my Spektrum radio this weekend I am going old school and throwing the 27mhz radio back in,,it never gave me any trouble,,but I know Im gonna miss my glitch free radio... Side note about the Creeper too, I am running the rear shocks about 50% stiffer than the front,,the front is pretty soft for approaches and ill see how it does tomorrow after work. |
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04-14-2010, 08:41 PM
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I took the Creeper out for a bit tonight,,and I am really impressed with the overall design of the rig and the almost box stock performance. I was able to dial almost all of the torque twist out with shock tuning. The 55t is a bit slow so Ill be switching in a 45t. The 2S will be fine for messing around and I will probably comp with the 2S this weekend. Hopefully I can get some action shots of it crawling. If it crawls in competition as well as it tested out I may very well be switching pro rigs from Bully to Creeper,,but it settles a major question so far thats been bugging me about the comp weight of my Bully rig. |
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