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Re: 28's Creeper they dont run them because there better, we run them as some guys need the extra length of the 70mm links. im running the XR chassis and i actually had to add 10mm of length to each of my front and rear links. and they still still arent long enought in my liking. |
I see, did'nt think about needing them for wheelbase length. Sent from my iPhone 4 using Tapatalk |
Got my first round of parts in yesterday. Shocks, skid, servo and batts. http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...r/5880a346.jpg While I wait for other parts I decided to build an incline board to give me something to go off of during building the truck and getting it dialed in. I used 60 grit sand paper to keep it in line with the creep-o-rama thread. How my truck sits in the pic above I can only get 55 degress. With moving the battery to the front I was able to bump it up to 58. But each time the front right tire was lifting pretty good. It's actually better than I thought it would do. I'll build the shocks next, throw em on and see how/if it changes the incline degree. http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...r/db10aa21.jpg Sent from my iPhone 4 using Tapatalk |
Re: 28's Creeper nice that u got those parts. u will be very happy with the shocks. unforchantly i cant give u any tips on biulding them as i bought mine used, but u will like them. also dont go hog wild with using that incline board. actually get out and go crawling with it after words. incline is not always what proves a good crawler "thumbsup" |
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About the shocks, I think they were the easiest shocks to build and bleed that I've ever done so far. Went 30 weight all around, suckers are smooth. Only gripe I have are the lower plastic caps, would've much rather seen it metal with an o-ring for a seal. After a few times of screwing them on and off I can see them starting to leak. Stock chassis just is'nt designed for these shorter shocks, I lost a lot of articulation with them. Hopefully the new chassis arrives soon.. Sent from my iPhone 4 using Tapatalk |
Re: 28's Creeper depending on how u have them mounted will determin articulation. post some pics of your setup, ill help u out. before the XR, i use to run a stock chassis with no battery tray and losi shocks. had lots of articulation when i had them setup right "thumbsup" |
Thanks, I'll try and get some pics up after work....just dependant on how tired I am. 12 hr work days are a pia after a while. Sent from my iPhone 4 using Tapatalk |
Got the pics... Here's showing max flex.. http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...r/e4336662.jpg Mounting locations...I've seen people run the losi shock mounts attached to the chassis but again, not wanting to buy anything for this chassis. If I need to I'll make my own mounts for now but would rather not waste the time. http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...r/a0f04c89.jpg http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...r/932cf904.jpg http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...r/538c62e4.jpg http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...r/36c5bece.jpg http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...r/12a87f99.jpg Sent from my iPhone 4 using Tapatalk |
Re: 28's Creeper okay first things first. basic:
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I built the shocks without limiters so they're at full travel. I'll move the stuff around in the next day or so and see what happens. First testing will be out at Tierra Del Sol this weekend. Sent from my iPhone 4 using Tapatalk |
Re: 28's Creeper okay, hope everything works out for ya "thumbsup" |
Round 2 of parts came in today, I'm stoked! Thanks Thomas. I also picked up a set of picquic, quick release hex drivers for the impact, should make building the rig a breeze. HR hubs and knuckles should be here in a day or so. I'll start the rebuild sometime this weekend. http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...r/9b67ee6a.jpg Sent from my iPhone 4 using Tapatalk |
Re: 28's Creeper nice:mrgreen:,it cant get much better than that ! |
Re: 28's Creeper how much did every thing cost? |
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But a lot cheaper than my HPI 5T so I'm not complaining. Sent from my iPhone 4 using Tapatalk |
Recieved the HR hubs and knuckles today. Great looking pieces... http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...r/cfd37b79.jpg But ran into a snag on install. You have to reuse your spacer sleeve from the stock knuckle. When I went to tighten down the knuckle to hub it would bind like crazy. Ended up having to add 1 shim inbetween the hub and knuckle. Did'nt matter if it was put on the top or bottom side. After that it was silky smooth. http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...r/df31b4f6.jpg Also started the truss installs. Got the rear finished but have a question on the fronts. The supplied button head screw holding the link stay on pushes the truss away from the axle housing. I'm wondering which way you guys are mounting the truss? Obviously your own supplied spacers are needed for the rears and fronts as well ,but are you guys spacing the truss far enough away from the axle for the button head screw clearance, countersinking the truss, or drilling a hole through the axle housing? Or some other way I'm not thinking of? I'm going to countersink the truss unless I hear of a better way of doing it before I install it tomorrow. I figure countersunk keeps from needing a spacer at the hub and keeps the truss closer to the axle for support. Pic of what I'm talking about and am going to countersink. http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...r/1f354849.jpg Sent from my iPhone 4 using Tapatalk |
Re: 28's Creeper Your creepers looking good i like the hr racing peices they look nice and stout |
Re: 28's Creeper was it a hard build? was thinking of getting one for my son but i would be the one building it and not sure if i can do it agian. i bult a Honch and it kicked my but. this one does not look to bad. |
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Re: 28's Creeper Im reallying digging your BTL kit and the chassis you got cant wait! to see how it turn out "thumbsup" |
Went ahead and countersunk the front truss, sits much better now. http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...r/9c42ee91.jpg http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...r/184ffd38.jpg http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...r/4ac43f15.jpg Got the chassis, ota steering, and truss installed. Had to add a spacer on the drag link to get the clearance over the battery that I wanted. http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...r/c1660354.jpg http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...r/fc7f5d92.jpg http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...r/8215e40f.jpg http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...r/cbc05bd0.jpg Links and shocks next... |
Re: 28's Creeper looks good bro, how u liken it so far? |
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I guess I thought I could build this up in one good day but that's not the case. Everytime I turn around something is fighting me or I need to figure out how to do something or what to use. I cut the rear lower links 1-1/8" shorter and broke the drill bit inside when trying to tap it.....figured no biggie I'll just use the old drag link instead...then ended up busting the tap into the other link. Had to make a run to pick up another tap and some 1/4" aluminum tube. All this may have been for nothing as my rear driveline is too long for shorter links. I shortened them up as much as I could but they're still too long. So now I'll be making links (again) closer to the stocker lengths. Only good thing so far is me being in the hobby for 14+ yrs, I have a lot of spare screws, nuts, rod ends for spacers,shims, etc. I just don't have any crawler specific stuff or crawler knowledge and have to figure it all out with what I do have. Guess I should've done a lot more reading and researching before the build, now I'm trying to look through everybody's thread today, lol...... But I'm determined to have this done on Monday. Rant off, lol... I bet you're sorry you asked, haha.. |
Re: 28's Creeper lol, sounds like its been more of tool problem than anything. for the rear driveline you are going to have to cut the rear driveshaft down to make it work with the shorter links. for right now this is what i can think of to help ya out. but if u come across any other problems feel free to ask "thumbsup" |
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Re: 28's Creeper ahhh, okay im running the traxxas driveline so i can shorten them a lot more |
Finally, got the main truck built. At a later date I'll shorten the rear more as it measure just a tad over 12-1/2" from axle to axle. Still need to finish the electronics install, will probly do that tonight. Here's how it sits.... http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...r/73efc2d7.jpg http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...r/a9342b32.jpg http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...r/43e77a4f.jpg http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...r/07195eff.jpg http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...r/4d91338b.jpg http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...r/94167f35.jpg Fully extended... http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...r/28629d25.jpg And lowered.... http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...r/d7850f0c.jpg I need to limit the shocks, a little too much flex.... http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...r/68484d2c.jpg And max steering angle... http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...r/5bd3e1b6.jpg |
Finished up with the electronics and built another protector for the esc capacitor. Ran it a little bit in the garage and I have 3 problems I'm hopeing you guys can help me out with....but first a couple pics of it finished up. http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...r/f18a04f8.jpg http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...r/ded2ee1c.jpg |
First problem that I have is the tt is really bad, 10 times worse than ever before. 2nd...the steering drag link has a lot of play (front to back) of the rig. How can I get it to be more solid but still allow for movement at the ball ends? 3rd...I have a lot of front axle movement side to side. Easily a 1/2" either way for 1" total movement. Figure problems 1 and 3 are in the link set-ups. Could you guys point me in the right direction. I can get better or more specific pics up if need be. Thanks in advance for any help.. |
Re: 28's Creeper the only way to figur out problems 1 and 3 is to give us a some better pics of the side plate on the chassis and the link mounts on the trusses. problem 2 is easly fixed by ziptieing the drag link to the tie rod |
Re: 28's Creeper Dalton's right about Problem 2... My first question about 1 and 3 is this...is the TT lifting the tires or just rolling the chassis? |
Re: 28's Creeper A couple things Id say are: Add 1/4" spacers between the lower front links and the chassis.--->problem 3 Move the rear upper stays to the inner set of holes to increase the angle between the uppers to 2-4*. The link tabs on the BTL plate are generally meant for those that dont have trusses...I have my front lowers in the lower hole outside of the stay and uppers are in the upper holes on to the inside...for the front links the separation needs to be greater at the chassis than it is at the axle...check that separation. |
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Just rolling into the throttle it's just rolling the chassis. Full throttle lifts the front right tire....reverse full throttle almost stands up on it's end. I know the incline board is'nt the end all set-up decider but before I was getting 61 degrees now I'm lifting the tires at 56...so a 5 degree change in the wrong direction seems like a lot. I'll try your suggestions and see what happens. I'll post some better pics of set up here in a minute. |
Re: 28's Creeper Ive got some fresh pics of my current set up ad Ill load them into my thread so you can see my preferred set up... One thing to keep in mind, is that the XRv2 is by design a soft chassis...its designed for flex and settling...my rig will settle and make off camber uphill turns that have made some of my co-drivers drop their jaws. I am working on an idea for an anti-roll bar for the rear only since the rear links are so short. |
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if you'd link RM i can work on the rear anti roll bar. i got my sc10 roll bar set that i dont use no more? |
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Moved the rear links and the tt is better but I'm still not happy with it. Being a crawler newb and not ever been out and seen others I'm just wondering if I'm asking too much out of a shafty? I was able to get a short video of it today in action....figured you guys being able to see what was going on could tell me what's good and what's not. So any and all input on it's handling is greatly appreciated. Video... http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...r/d247d4b2.mp4 |
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