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Old 07-14-2012, 07:37 AM   #1
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I first got involved into this addiction about 3.5 yrs ago. I didn't know much about any of this side of the hobby. I first bought a RTR Duratrax Cliff Climber and then bought my first kit,The Venom Creeper! I built the kit stock,then picked up the CKRC Stage 2 suspension kit. I modded an Axial front axle Battery and servo plate to fit the Creeper. I ran a HH Crawlmaster Outrunner with a Mamba Max Pro,and a 6cell nimh split pack on the front axle. I went to my very first comp with this truck. I didn't know anyone there,and I was the only one with a creeper. I did suprisingly well with it. At the time Venom still hadn't released their dig setup,and I just couldn't keep up with everyone using dig. So,I sold off the creeper and built an AX10. Looking back I always liked my creeper. I just picked up a pair of Creeper Axles and I just ordered a new Kit. I have access to alot of tooling that I didn't in the past,and I am looking forward to doing some cool things with this build. From looking around in here,it looks some of you guys have really done alot of work to the Creeper and that is encouraging. My plan is to pick up some of the parts made available now and design my own chassis setup for this build. I am looking forward to getting started.
I had just built a BWD 13.5 Whiplash with Axial Axles. I put a set of street tires on it and was running it tru the parking lot at high speed! It was working great until you try to make a high speed turn with the locked axles.It would then Violantly barrel roll out of control. I was thinking I could take a pair of creeper axles and unlock them when playing in the parking lot,and lock them when running FOFF. I'm not sure how well it is going to work,but I'm going to give it a try!
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Old 07-14-2012, 07:42 AM   #2
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Hey John if you can do what you can achieve with Dons gear, im sure you can get creative with this. One of our local guys took a creeper to new levels locally up until about a year ago and it was still competitive. With the right mods they seem to work quite well
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Old 07-14-2012, 07:45 AM   #3
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Rock it!

Looking at some of your other builds.... I'll be watching this!!!

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Old 07-14-2012, 07:48 AM   #4
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Hey John if you can do what you can achieve with Dons gear, im sure you can get creative with this. One of our local guys took a creeper to new levels locally up until about a year ago and it was still competitive. With the right mods they seem to work quite well
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Thanks Ben, I've been pondering a Creeper Wedge!

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Rock it!

Looking at some of your other builds.... I'll be watching this!!!

Thanks Man, I'm hoping this will turn out as well as I am imagining it!
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Old 07-14-2012, 09:19 PM   #5
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Welcome back.. there are huge upgrades to the creeper available now an like you the creeper was my first crawler an took it to my first comp as well. Like you said, no dig, no good, since I run dig an a fullll paradox'd creeper, it stands up to the moa rigs without question an the guy I crawl with runs a xr-10.. I do better at some things an he does better at others but no problems running all tbe same lines! Can't wait to see what ur knowledge brings to the table..
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Old 07-15-2012, 05:43 AM   #6
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Keep us posted on the build! Are you going to pick up the diff lock kits so you can do it via radio? That would even be sweeter! Also for FOff make sure to check out some CBRB Titanium axles. Very durable!
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Old 07-18-2012, 02:27 PM   #7
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I received my kit today! when I get home tonite I am going to start on this bad boy!
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Old 07-21-2012, 10:18 PM   #8
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Heres a question I have been pondering with this build. How many pieces from the actual Creeper do you need to use and still be able to call it a creeper?... with all of the ideas I want to use,I'm afraid the only thing that would be left are the axle cases!.......so,this really has me thinking,and I have a complete kit and a complete pair of stock axles. I guess that means 2 builds then.......lol,well I will be updating this with some pics soon. I got some really good ideas,now gotta make them happen.
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Old 07-21-2012, 11:21 PM   #9
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How much of a stock XR10 is stock Axial could also be asked John. We use Don's chassis, VP upgrades some use RC4WD gear sets etc, is an XR10 still an Axial XR10. Not really, yet it still resembles an Axial XR10. I see the same for your Creeper. If anything it becomes more a hybrid Creeper.

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Old 07-22-2012, 12:20 AM   #10
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as long as the ring and pinion and the axle housings are the stock ones then you can still consider it a creeper
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Old 07-22-2012, 08:40 AM   #11
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How much of a stock XR10 is stock Axial could also be asked John. We use Don's chassis, VP upgrades some use RC4WD gear sets etc, is an XR10 still an Axial XR10. Not really, yet it still resembles an Axial XR10. I see the same for your Creeper. If anything it becomes more a hybrid Creeper.

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yeah ben,thats what I was thinking too,but at one point everything I was planning to use would have been from an AX10 except the axle cases. I got that changed now!

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as long as the ring and pinion and the axle housings are the stock ones then you can still consider it a creeper
sounds good to me, do I have to use the stock pinion and ring gears in both axles? I decided on a list of parts that I will be using from the kit to help keep the Creeper Idenity!

Axles to include ring and pinions
Shocks
Body
Maybe wheels
Decal sheet

It will atleast look like a true Creeper from the outside!
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Old 07-22-2012, 09:51 AM   #12
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I dont think theres any otheres that will fit a creeper axle
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Old 07-22-2012, 10:04 AM   #13
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I dont think theres any otheres that will fit a creeper axle
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Old 07-23-2012, 12:35 PM   #14
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is this thing built yet???

that pic didn't work btw
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Old 07-23-2012, 12:42 PM   #15
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Nope,but there is an axle on its way to the BWD Lab in Pantego TX!
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Old 07-25-2012, 01:08 PM   #16
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The first batch of parts showed up today. Pretty soon I'll be able to show some real progress on this project. Here is a rundown of the parts list so far.

Venom Creeper kit
BWD Creeper Wedge Chassis Kit
Hot Racing Rear Lockouts
Creeperbob TI rear axles
Venom Alloy dif cases
Venom lockers(rear axle only )
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Old 07-25-2012, 01:17 PM   #17
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sounds like a nice start on a parts list
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Old 07-25-2012, 01:41 PM   #18
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Which Wedge Chasiss are you using for this build John? i have a mate loaclly i mentioned in the past to you that ran one of these quite sucsessfully locally and his own is going through its own transformation and im sure he would be keen to know if its chassis designed uniquely for the Venom or is it another chassis addappted to the Venom? As his sporty and Pro both going through a major revamp. PM me if you want,

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Old 07-25-2012, 01:44 PM   #19
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Its the Creeper Wedge kit! Didn't you see it!............pm coming Ben,I don't want to give out all my plans just yet!
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Old 07-25-2012, 03:23 PM   #20
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Hey John all good



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