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Old 06-22-2011, 12:37 PM   #21
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i have a panal 2in. x 2.5in. but has a bend in two places is this legal?
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Old 06-22-2011, 02:16 PM   #22
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That looks legal to me. Both measurements are larger than 1" and 2x2.5=5"sq.
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Old 06-22-2011, 02:41 PM   #23
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thanks jeremyH, thats what i was thinking also but a second oppinion is always good.
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Old 08-29-2011, 09:52 AM   #24
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Hi guys, is it legal to put panels on the inside of the chassis sides like this. Apologies for the crappy cell photos.

I have read the rules regarding panels thoroughly and by definition this ought to be allowed but wanted to check any way.
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Bump, I'm also curious about putting panels inside the chassis plates....
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2.1.4.1.3 -Body panels must be solidly installed in a manner that is representative of a 1:1 vehicle.

I have never seen sheet metal installed to a roll cage's framework or inside the perimeter of a tube frame/chassis on a 1:1 to represent a "body"
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I have never seen sheet metal installed to a roll cage's framework or inside the perimeter of a tube frame/chassis on a 1:1 to represent a "body"
You've never seen an exo cage?
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aren't those to protect a "body" but not make up the actual "frame"of the vehicle itself? i know where you are going.... lol

this is grey area, not grey matter.
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I agree...it is grey. However, I have never seen a 1:1 skin that makes up the actual frame. I also dont see him mounting those skins on the inside being any sort of advantage....actually, I see that hurting him. An exterior skin would give a smooth transition over the supports in that chassis so that nothing would get hung up.

And besides, who would want to cover up that awesome chassis?
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Now let's say he added lexan to cover the frame. if he wanted to mimic the frame in a delrin "skeleton" that was identical to the frame, and use it on the outermost layer, I don't see the illegality of that because the "body" is already there.
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Old 09-01-2011, 04:35 AM   #31
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I agree...it is grey. However, I have never seen a 1:1 skin that makes up the actual frame. I also dont see him mounting those skins on the inside being any sort of advantage....actually, I see that hurting him. An exterior skin would give a smooth transition over the supports in that chassis so that nothing would get hung up.

And besides, who would want to cover up that awesome chassis?
I agree that in this case, it really isn't an advantage. My only problem with allowing this is you open the door to people running and skin inside on a chassis such as a T1e that has a narrow inner chassis and a much wider cab. ...actually, It's not so much that the skin is inside, but I'd like to see it required to be outside of the cab, so that they either have to get creative with bends or give up a slight amount of side clearance.

On the example above, the skin isn't what's going to help or hurt performance. Those exposed, out boarded links are going to catch everything without something to aid in the transition.
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My only problem with allowing this is you open the door to people running and skin inside on a chassis such as a T1e that has a narrow inner chassis and a much wider cab.
Do you mean between the upper cab and the chassis? I already see plenty of people doing that...
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2.1.4.1.3 -Body panels must be solidly installed in a manner that is representative of a 1:1 vehicle.

I have never seen sheet metal installed to a roll cage's framework or inside the perimeter of a tube frame/chassis on a 1:1 to represent a "body"
actually the sheet metel on a 1:1 is the body,and I have seen it mounted on the inside before.
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I agree that in this case, it really isn't an advantage. My only problem with allowing this is you open the door to people running and skin inside on a chassis such as a T1e that has a narrow inner chassis and a much wider cab. ...actually, It's not so much that the skin is inside, but I'd like to see it required to be outside of the cab, so that they either have to get creative with bends or give up a slight amount of side clearance.

On the example above, the skin isn't what's going to help or hurt performance. Those exposed, out boarded links are going to catch everything without something to aid in the transition.

as long as the vehicle meets all measurements then I see no problem and dont think there should be one.

I also dont see a reason to create a scenario where a person has to be "creative" with the bends or lose clearance.

clearance isnt an issue,width isnt an issue,performance isnt an issue....
its the I DONT LIKE IT issue.

Some people thnk thier trucks looks betetr a certain way,doesnt mean it has an advantage,just that it looks betetr to them,then someone says "wait a minute"!cuz they dont like it for whatever reason.


Its thier truck,if it meeets all specified requirements it should be legal,and changing the rules to force someone to make thier truck look a certsin way,or be creative with bends,ect wont help the hobby,or improve a level playing field IMO.
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Is there an official interpretation of the latest discussion above on mounting panels yet? I have my side panels mounted directly on the outside of the lower chassis plates. Is this accepted in US comps?

My current understanding of the rules tells me this should be ok.


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Old 09-03-2012, 10:08 AM   #36
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I wonder about the interpretation of "solid":
1. Stiff. No (realistic) "canvas" roof/sides allowed.
2. Not a mesh/net.
3. Both 1. and 2.
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Old 09-03-2012, 05:19 PM   #37
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I wonder about the interpretation of "solid":
1. Stiff. No (realistic) "canvas" roof/sides allowed.
2. Not a mesh/net.
3. Both 1. and 2.
Let's get this out of the way first, what is your interpretation of "Solid"?
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Old 09-03-2012, 06:20 PM   #38
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You will have to explain how he is supposed to flip his losi crawler over when its upside down first!!

see his thread in http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/rules...ml#post3898522

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Old 09-04-2012, 04:44 AM   #39
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Let's get this out of the way first, what is your interpretation of "Solid"?
As a physicist my primary interpretation is "not fluid". So not a gas, liquid or plasma. Even trying to have fluid side panels is stupid, so that can't be the correct interpretation here...

Next I'd say "no holes". "Canvas top" is very much in line with what some 1:1 crawlers use, so that would be legal.
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Old 10-25-2012, 08:45 AM   #40
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I have a question about the hood panel, and the Rules Committee's interpretation of "exposed".

▪ 2.1.5.1.4 - All panels (roof, hood, and sides) must have at least 2x measurements greater than 1", and a minimum of 3.5 square inches of exposed solid surface area.

How far past the A-pillar, and into the cab is the panel allowed to extend, before it is no longer considered exposed? For example, is it possible to have 1/4" of hood extending out from the cab, and have the hood panel sit inside the cab to make up the required 3.5 square inches?


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