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Old 01-12-2011, 08:39 AM   #1
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o 2.1.4.1 - Bodiless vehicles must have solid hood panel, solid roof panel and a minimum of 2 solid side-panels.

o 2.1.4.1.1 - Hood, roof and side panels must be separate pieces of solid material
installed onto the bodiless vehicle frame.

o 2.1.4.1.2 - All body panels are to be separate pieces from the
complete structural frame.

o 2.1.4.1.3 - Body panels must be solidly installed in a manner that is
representative of a 1:1 vehicle.

o 2.1.4.1.4 - All panels (roof, hood, and sides) must have at least 2x measurements greater than 1", and a minimum of 3.5 square inches of exposed solid surface area.

o 2.1.4.1.5 - Body panels must be fitted to the vehicle, and not be exaggerated in size or shape in order to distort vehicles legal measurements.

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Old 01-12-2011, 09:10 AM   #2
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The minimum body panel size is 3.5 square inches of area which happens to be the same size as a standard business card.



I made this simple Tech Tool in about 5 mins (it shows) out of lexan. All the area inside the various colored lines are 3.5 square inches AND have at least 2x measurements greater than 1"





For those with more elaborate shapes a program that figures it out


http://www.3ds.com/products/draftsig...tor=SEC-6-GOO-



Just remember the person doing tech at the next comp may not have the access to the program





more examples of LEGAL shapes, and one that is NOT

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Here is Ricky testing it out on his own truck! As you can see its very easy to do.

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All these shapes are half a business card. Which is 3.5 square inches. I think we could do all the tech with these 4 shapes. It's not like you have to tech each one, only if it looks close to spec. You can tell.






I'll tech my bodiless 1st. You just hold the shape thats close to the same shape as the panel. You can see the panel is bigger than the half card on all 3 areas, hood ,roof and side.









Here's my son Jarred's rig.





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During some testing of the procedure I found I could just lay the 1/2 business card on the table in proximity to the truck being teched, and 90% I could tell just by looking without even touching the card.
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so each of of those card pieces are 3.5" square inches, that's handy to know and very easy to make template's ..........bob

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o 2.1.4.1 - Bodiless vehicles must have solid hood panel, solid roof panel and a minimum of 2 solid side-panels.

o 2.1.4.1.1 - Hood, roof and side panels must be separate pieces of solid material
installed onto the bodiless vehicle frame.

o 2.1.4.1.2 - All body panels are to be separate pieces from the
complete structural frame.

o 2.1.4.1.3 - Body panels must be solidly installed in a manner that is
representative of a 1:1 vehicle.

o 2.1.4.1.4 - All panels (roof, hood, and sides) must have at least 2x measurements greater than 1", and a minimum of 3.5 square inches of exposed solid surface area.

o 2.1.4.1.5 - Body panels must be fitted to the vehicle, and not be exaggerated in size or shape in order to distort vehicles legal measurements.
If I cut a body such as JConcepts Gate Crusher in such a way that I have a single hood, windshield and roof panel for my BJ4, will it be illegal?

I did the same in my LCC with a BJ4 top cab but wider (3.5") compared to my XR10 with BJ4 chassis, will it be illegal too?
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Here are the panels I made for my LCC with BJ4 top cab. Its a JConcept Gate Crusher body donating the panels.



and the back view of the hood-windshield-roof.



Clear view of the top panel



Would much appreciate your comment if this legal or illegal. I am using the same idea in my XR10 and I hope I get a positive feedback as I use these trucks in comps.
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I have used that body before.





I think your rig looks legal. Have you check it , read the 1st post and check it.
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If I cut a body such as JConcepts Gate Crusher in such a way that I have a single hood, windshield and roof panel for my BJ4, will it be illegal?

I did the same in my LCC with a BJ4 top cab but wider (3.5") compared to my XR10 with BJ4 chassis, will it be illegal too?
It would not be legal since the hood and roof are not seperate pieces.

o 2.1.4.1.1 - Hood, roof and side panels must be separate pieces of solid material installed onto the bodiless vehicle frame.
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Thats what I thought. But if I cut the panel in the lower portion of the windshield and install the same way, it will be two pieces. Will it be ok then?
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Thats what I thought. But if I cut the panel in the lower portion of the windshield and install the same way, it will be two pieces. Will it be ok then?
Yes it would be legal. And it;s going to look sweet.
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Yes it would be legal. And it;s going to look sweet.
Thanks for the replies.
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Here are the panels I made for my LCC with BJ4 top cab. Its a JConcept Gate Crusher body donating the panels.
would much appreciate your comment if this legal or illegal. I am using the same idea in my XR10 and I hope I get a positive feedback as I use these trucks in comps.
says that each panel must be seperate, hood, roof and side panels must be seperate from each other "IF" i read it right........bob

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I'm making an aluminum bodiless chassis, but I made the side plates full (not cutout). According to the rules, I have to cut out the side, and then panel them back over, correct?

(I also made a top and hood as part of the structure, changing them out anyways due to weight.)
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I have a side panel question. Can my side panels go around my transmission on one side. They would be well over legal size but the tranny will stick out about 1/4 past the panel? The motor will be covered but the 2 screws for the motor mount would not

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I have a side panel question. Can my side panels go around my transmission on one side. They would be well over legal size but the tranny will stick out about 1/4 past the panel? The motor will be covered but the 2 screws for the motor mount would not

i would have to say no, i had my side panel with a hole cut in the middle to give room for my motor that was sticking out past my tube frame....i was told it was a no go and that it has to be a solid panel with no holes but screw/tie mounting holes.........bob

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I have a side panel question. Can my side panels go around my transmission on one side.
So, near the tranny it would be shaped like a U, but everywhere else would be enclosed? The enclosed area meets the dimension guidelines (meaning, if you cut off the U portion, then the panel would still pass)? If so, then I'd say there is nothing wrong with that....
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Don't tell anybody, but I agree with JeremyH. A pic would help.
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I'M about to go to AWCC this weekend and made some new panels.

I made the hood panel 2 1/8 in. by 2 1/4 in. is that legal or illegal? (it says something about a minimum of 3.5 square inches?)

I don't want to have problems at AWCC.

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I'M about to go to AWCC this weekend and made some new panels.

I made the hood panel 2 1/8 in. by 2 1/4 in. is that legal or illegal? (it says something about a minimum of 3.5 square inches?)

I don't want to have problems at AWCC.

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2.125 x 2.25 = 4.78

4.78 > 3.5
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