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Anyone happy with the Losi?
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Happy_trucker
Rock Stacker
Although my truck is one with a little problem, I like it alot. I do think because this truck is different from your regular crawlers, you have to learn how to drive it again. With me being new to crawling this truck is perfect for me.:mrgreen:
I like it"thumbsup"
I like it"thumbsup"
No, they wont. If it were still Team Losi and not Horrizon then yes, but I tried to get a replacement for a broken out of the box cvd replaced for a xxx-t cr and they said for x amount of dollars we can send you one. I would hope they would replace them for everyone but its unlikely.
Well until they do that too me they still have my support. I have had many dealings with Horizon and they have always done right by me. Sometimes who you talk to makes a difference as well.
celsiusprime
Pebble Pounder
Horizon hooked me up proper-like when I had problems with my Mini-T as well. I think they have good customer service. I haven't broken anything on my new Losi Crawler yet, but if I do, I fully expect that they will help me out.
Rocksmith Eng.
Rock Crawler
You know, I love mine.
Yea it has some issues. But I havent broken anything on mine as of yet.
I played in my rock garden today and I have to say, if driven right this thing will pull some of the most amazing lines imagineable. I pulled a couple lines today that my old rig would never even got close to pulling, period.
I think with some more work and experimentation on the motor pinion combos will yield one of the best rigs out. My opinion is this is gonna be the rig to beat. This is not a rig for the thrash master type driver, its more for the finesse driver.
So in all
This thing freakin rocks!
Yea it has some issues. But I havent broken anything on mine as of yet.
I played in my rock garden today and I have to say, if driven right this thing will pull some of the most amazing lines imagineable. I pulled a couple lines today that my old rig would never even got close to pulling, period.
I think with some more work and experimentation on the motor pinion combos will yield one of the best rigs out. My opinion is this is gonna be the rig to beat. This is not a rig for the thrash master type driver, its more for the finesse driver.
So in all
This thing freakin rocks!
miller
Rock Crawler
It's clear that people don't understand the physics behind the gearing in the axles. That's also why they run hot. The stress on the cvd's is huge because the axles have majority of the gearing. Plastic tranny will probably last just fine because the stress is coming after the gearing in the axles. Same goes for the driveshafts.
That being said though...it would have been nice for them to make some super stout axles. I'm sure they will take care of everything...I hope :mrgreen:
That being said though...it would have been nice for them to make some super stout axles. I'm sure they will take care of everything...I hope :mrgreen:
kikcaffine
Rock Crawler
I did notice before my axle snapped there was a good amount of play in that wheel.
roksloski
I wanna be Dave
so what do you all think the chances are you will get a replacment that is no different than the one that broke...
untill they figure out what problem is chances are you will get one from the same batch>>>> JMO
untill they figure out what problem is chances are you will get one from the same batch>>>> JMO
I love the way it handles and drives, bone stock setup.
It drives great, I was concerned about the worm drive gears locking up on descents and causing endos but I really feel like the worm drive suits my style of driving, being able to control my descents is awesome.
I really like the rig so far.
I'm not happy with the motor/heat issues I'm having.
If this truck was designed to be just a "comp" truck - In the sense that you drive it for 5-6-7 minutes at a time and that's it. I will be very disappointed. I don't think that's what people had in mind when they were expecting this.
It drives great, I was concerned about the worm drive gears locking up on descents and causing endos but I really feel like the worm drive suits my style of driving, being able to control my descents is awesome.
I really like the rig so far.
I'm not happy with the motor/heat issues I'm having.
If this truck was designed to be just a "comp" truck - In the sense that you drive it for 5-6-7 minutes at a time and that's it. I will be very disappointed. I don't think that's what people had in mind when they were expecting this.
fwilly
Pebble Pounder
The steering CVDs don't care if the reduction is done in the transmission or axles. all that matters to them is the final ratio. The CVDs on the drive shaft have an easier job if the majority of the reduction is done in the axles.
Obviously you don't understand the physics, the axles would see the same stress even if they were in an Axial because they are AFTER all the reduction :roll:
miller
Rock Crawler
No folks...there is nothing to give...it's gearing then cvd's and hex's. No driveshafts to pop off, no tranny outputs to go, no tranny gears. The first weak link is the axle shafts then cvds. All my point is, is that that should have been the beefiest thing on the rig.
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No again. That doesn't mean there is less force on the axles. Just means there is nothing to break before them.
fwilly
Pebble Pounder
I forgot to mention that I am fairly confident that, when the CVD issue is resolved, I will be happy with my Losi
bigflex
I wanna be Dave
I think what he is meaning is that with a worm drive setup if you try to turn the axle at the wheel it won't turn (unlike a standard ring and pinion style axle). You are right though, that wouldn't make a difference."thumbsup"
cato
RCC Addict
Amazing...none of you remember when the AX-10 came out do ya? :? Not one prob....:roll::mrgreen: All will be worked out "grasshopper""thumbsup"
miller
Rock Crawler
Really this should be in a different thread...but to me the losi looks awesome and I will be buying one as soon as the cvd issue is sorted out.
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http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/PR-BV60/index1b.html
This is talking about just a shaft. My understanding would be that if the strength of the drivetrain was equal all the way up to the motor, the more distance you have between the majority of the gearing and the final driver...the cvd, the greater the dispersion of the resistance is through twist. The energy in an ax-10 is dissipated from the tranny output (because that's where most of the gearing comes out....the cause of torque twist) all the way through to the cvd's or dogbones. That's a lot more length to absorb torsional load. The cvd's are not taking all the load from the final drive ratio...it is spread out across what is delivering that power...the longer the length the less direct load on the cvd's. The energy is used in the distance, the final drive ratio is the same but the load that the cvd's sees is not...according to math anyways.
Anyways the point being, this should have been the beefiest part of the rig from the initial design. The axles and cvd's because they see the most stress (be it in an axial, wheely king, losi, whatever). I think once this is taken care of the rig will be RAD. Then I'll buy one :mrgreen:
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http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/PR-BV60/index1b.html
However, there's one big gotcha - almost always one shaft is dramatically shorter than the other. In my own GM Dana 60, the long side shaft is 35" long, or about 50% longer than the 18" short side shaft. The problem with this becomes evident when we recall once agaibn our friend the angular deflection equation (math is soooo cool
alpha=[584(T)(l) ] / D^4 * G
Where:
alpha = the torsional deflection in degrees (how much it twists)
T = Torsional or twisting moment in inch pounds (torque or load placed on the axle)
l = length of the shaft in inches
D = diameter of shaft in inches
G= torsional modulus of elasticity (a constant for all steel shafts at 11,500,000 psi )
In my front axle in any given "all wheels driving" sitaution, for each shaft G and T are equal, or about equal, and l is quite different: meaning that if D is constant between the 2 shafts, the longer shaft will twist more than the short. This will normally allow the energy to be dissapated better in the longer, greater twisting shaft than in the short shaft - this explains why quite often we see more broken short side axles than long.
This is talking about just a shaft. My understanding would be that if the strength of the drivetrain was equal all the way up to the motor, the more distance you have between the majority of the gearing and the final driver...the cvd, the greater the dispersion of the resistance is through twist. The energy in an ax-10 is dissipated from the tranny output (because that's where most of the gearing comes out....the cause of torque twist) all the way through to the cvd's or dogbones. That's a lot more length to absorb torsional load. The cvd's are not taking all the load from the final drive ratio...it is spread out across what is delivering that power...the longer the length the less direct load on the cvd's. The energy is used in the distance, the final drive ratio is the same but the load that the cvd's sees is not...according to math anyways.
Anyways the point being, this should have been the beefiest part of the rig from the initial design. The axles and cvd's because they see the most stress (be it in an axial, wheely king, losi, whatever). I think once this is taken care of the rig will be RAD. Then I'll buy one :mrgreen:
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toyofast
I wanna be Dave
Are you for real? So, by what you're saying is that if I were to buy this truck I should only be driving it at a comp, once a month for a total of about 15-20 tops each month? Give me a freaking break.
I bet 100% of the top drivers in the country drive a lot, not just 15-20 minutes a month but have hours and hours behind the wheel of their rig(s) to get to know how the crawler will handle all types of situations. This thing should be able to handle a lot of abuse, especially in a comp situation. Drivers push their trucks harder at a comp than they do just practicing, at least from my experience.
The 2.2 class is one of hardest classes out there. The trucks need to be some of the toughest out there.
I am liking mine there are some things to be upgraded just like any other crawler you buy out of the box.I no means work for Losi but i will sure bet Rich will be taking care of the issues at hand just my .02 cents worth.
