First deer.

[grizz]

Here's some pics of my first deer I killed.
Got him two days before season went out. Yearling button buck.
Weighed about 100, he is delicious.

 

[rockmahala]

lookin a lil scared of it ehh?

 

[braceysdad]

Did you gut shoot him?

Have fun cleaning that...

 

[grizz]

Lol, I wasn't scared, didn't know when dad was taking it.
And yeah, I cleaned it. With dad showing me what to do.
Yeah I shot him. 12g

 

[Rc_Kid]

I never knew people shot deer with shotguns, always thought that was for birds, because of the spread.

Nice doe tho.

 

[t_kirl]

I never knew people shot deer with shotguns, always thought that was for birds, because of the spread.

Nice doe tho.

Some states you cannot use rifles. You use a shotgun with slugs not bird shot.

 

[Rc_Kid]

Some states you cannot use rifles. You use a shotgun with slugs not bird shot.

That seems a little messed up, that you can't use a rifle in some states.

That makes sense, slugs do go way farther.

 

[ultimate_monkey]

That makes sense, slugs do go way farther.

umm no they dont

slugs are a relitivly low muzzle velocity and heavy, they loose velocity very quickly compared to a rifle shot. they tend to be used more in dense bush where the shot distance is less then 100feet a rifle shot is far more accurate and leathal at a much further range

 

[rcjunky3]

nice looking dear there

 

[jcboof]

umm no they dont

slugs are a relitivly low muzzle velocity and heavy, they loose velocity very quickly compared to a rifle shot. they tend to be used more in dense bush where the shot distance is less then 100feet a rifle shot is far more accurate and leathal at a much further range

Well, Nice deer to start with! Even though its a little small, it will be much better eating than a 200lb old buck!
I shot a deer just like that this year just to put in the freezer! Congrats on your first deer!

Anyways, about the slug thing. I'm not much for Shotgun hunting, I'm a bowhunter primarily but I can attest to the fact that slugs do a hell of a job on a deer and they can be shot from quite a distance if the shotgun is sighted in properly.

Most slugs that people will see are of the rifled variety. The lead slug itself is approximately the same size as the bore of the barrel. The new SABOT type slugs are MUCH MUCH more accurate and can be fired much longer distances. I witnessed my friend shoot a deer one year at 200YDS!! with a slug and drop it right in its tracks! I have my slug gun sighted in for 100yds! Its nothing to shoot them that far, Yes the slugs tend to drop quite a bit after 100 yds but at 150 yds, my slugs only drop 6".

Slugs tend to have ALOT more knockdown power than a rifle at closer ranges eg. less than 100yds. Because of the size and weight behind the slug. Yes, a rifle will have alot more knockdown power at 200-300yds because of muzzle velocity.

Shotguns are primarily used through the midwest because of the large amount of hunting done on open fields. The high powered rifles can shoot up to 1 mile easily through unobstructed areas, the shotgun slugs will likely only go 300 yds before hitting the ground. The shotguns are deemed "SAFER" I guess.

Personally growing up in Northern Wisconsin, I used High Powered Rifles and I prefer it to shotguns, but we have do deal with what we have in Indiana.

 

[rottenbelly]

Congrats grizz!! I still remember my first deer. (About 23 years ago, when i was 11.)
You are doing better than me, i havent even got to go yet!!
Going to hit it hard this week. Got a new thompson center muzzeloader for X-mas to try out.:mrgreen:

 

[grizz]

Thanks guys,
I thought it was a doe as well until I got up to it.
And some states, you can use shotguns, just no buck shot. Only slugs.

 

[Rc_Kid]

umm no they dont

slugs are a relitivly low muzzle velocity and heavy, they loose velocity very quickly compared to a rifle shot. they tend to be used more in dense bush where the shot distance is less then 100feet a rifle shot is far more accurate and leathal at a much further range

so how far does buckshot, and other types of shotgun ammo go before it spreads out and has no stopping power?

A slug stays together and has more power at a farther range, which it makes sense to use them.

 

[grizz]

I did have some stats on that, don't know where it went.
Some 12g shots will only go up to 50 yrds.

 

[jcboof]

I'm not sure what the specs are either but 12ga birdshot goes about 50 yds before its pretty much useless. buckshot goes about 100yds before its useless, a .410 slug is about the size of a 30-30 round and can travel extremely far and has alot of kinetic energy behind it. Alot of guys here in indiana use .410's Alot also use the .44 rifle. it uses .44 cal handgun rounds in a rifle. Here in Indiana it's also OK to use a handgun as long as it is the proper caliber.

 

[grizz]

I'm not sure what the specs are either but 12ga birdshot goes about 50 yds before its pretty much useless. buckshot goes about 100yds before its useless, a .410 slug is about the size of a 30-30 round and can travel extremely far and has alot of kinetic energy behind it. Alot of guys here in indiana use .410's Alot also use the .44 rifle. it uses .44 cal handgun rounds in a rifle. Here in Indiana it's also OK to use a handgun as long as it is the proper caliber.

Here in Kentucky, I'm pretty sure you can use a 9mm for deer.

 

[ultimate_monkey]

jcboof - I agree slugs do have alot more knock down power at closer ranges simply due to the mass and size of them. They can be used at further distances, but you really have to know your gun and ammunition to be accurate at 100 yards, 6" drop can make the differance between a kill or just wounding it, if not a complete miss (depending on where and what angel your shootin)

Rc_Kid - buck shot is lethal up to about 25yards (of course depending what your shooting at) its not legal to hunt large game with it, its for birds only. you would have to be about 10feet away to bring down a deer with it. as far as spread patten, a VERY general rule is it will spread 3/4-1" per yard after leaving the muzzle that all depends on, shot size, barrel lenght, if a choke is being used or not

 

[dkf]

The youngs ones ar enice and tender.:mrgreen:

A rifled barrel and the right slugs (50cal bullet in a wad) can carry a long way and pack a wallop. A 385 grain 50cal bullet going 2k fps is going to make a hell of a hole and shoot pretty flat. I have a rifled barrel for my shotgun and use the Winchester 12 Ga 3" Partition Gold Sabot Slugs. They shoot very flat out to 100 yards, the recoil is a lot more than my 30-06.

http://www.winchester.com/Products/shotshell-ammunition/supreme/winchester-slugs/Pages/SSP123.aspx

 

[Rc_Kid]

jcboof - I agree slugs do have alot more knock down power at closer ranges simply due to the mass and size of them. They can be used at further distances, but you really have to know your gun and ammunition to be accurate at 100 yards, 6" drop can make the differance between a kill or just wounding it, if not a complete miss (depending on where and what angel your shootin)

Rc_Kid - buck shot is lethal up to about 25yards (of course depending what your shooting at) its not legal to hunt large game with it, its for birds only. you would have to be about 10feet away to bring down a deer with it. as far as spread patten, a VERY general rule is it will spread 3/4-1" per yard after leaving the muzzle that all depends on, shot size, barrel lenght, if a choke is being used or not

Just to let you know I am not trying to argue, just saying that's why it makes sense to use slugs, because there is no spread and it is just a big chunk of lead that travels decently far for what it is.

 

[ultimate_monkey]

imnot trying to argue either.. just saying a slug wont hold a match to a rifle for long range..


unless i miss under stood and you orinanlly ment that a slug out shoots birdshot... but from how i read it, you were saying a slug out shoots a rifle.. just the way you quoted then wrote your reply