Guys, PLEASE don't get duped by this "improvement" or "upgraded suspension".
The year 2000 called. It wants it's suspension back.
The year 2000 called. It wants it's suspension back.
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$1090 Wraith suspension mod!>?!>!
- Thread starter Dostradamas
- Start date
L_Brown
Newbie
This is just my opinion. From the videos it looks impressive compared to other Wraith videos. Besides, who cares. If you dont like it, dont use it. These are just toy cars. I am following Harleys bullet proof build but with this suspension. Just look closely at the pictures and you can see what is done. I agree, 12 hours is a very long time and I dont understand that.
Personally I think it looks cool and I want to use it, I dont care if the design is from 10 years ago or 25 years ago. To each his own, but with that said there is no way I would ever pay that much for it. If I cant build it myself with parts from the local shop then I dont need it.
Personally I think it looks cool and I want to use it, I dont care if the design is from 10 years ago or 25 years ago. To each his own, but with that said there is no way I would ever pay that much for it. If I cant build it myself with parts from the local shop then I dont need it.
KillerBlackbird
Rock Crawler
I think my King 110mm shocks on my own Wraith have just as much flex as that set up lol
monkeyracer
I wanna be Dave
Waste of money. Period.
I don't care what anyone does to their truck, just please don't send the guys in the link any money. It only encourages them to keep ripping people off, confusing n00bs, and the design doesn't prove anything.
There's no free lunch. You want crazy breakover angle? you're either going to lose COG or your suspension will be floppy. It would be much better to simply learn how to drive better than to waste the money on this suspension mod.
For the money they want, you could buy much better parts to make the whole rig stronger, and much more capable. I'd start with VVDs, aluminum hubs, knuckles, titanium links, Beefy transmission with dig, better motor/electronics, and some pitbull RBs on beadlocks. I think I'd still be under budget even after all that, and have something that will crawl all over the abomination that they made.
I don't care what anyone does to their truck, just please don't send the guys in the link any money. It only encourages them to keep ripping people off, confusing n00bs, and the design doesn't prove anything.
There's no free lunch. You want crazy breakover angle? you're either going to lose COG or your suspension will be floppy. It would be much better to simply learn how to drive better than to waste the money on this suspension mod.
For the money they want, you could buy much better parts to make the whole rig stronger, and much more capable. I'd start with VVDs, aluminum hubs, knuckles, titanium links, Beefy transmission with dig, better motor/electronics, and some pitbull RBs on beadlocks. I think I'd still be under budget even after all that, and have something that will crawl all over the abomination that they made.
crawler nut
RCC Addict
I'm pretty sure I have barely over that in my whole Wraith. LOL. Yeah that's a rip off for sure.
Draggermirage
Pebble Pounder
I've seen a similar design employed on a locals rig here during a little team truck challenge.
I think a bone stock wraith actually performed better on everything minus the ledge breakover versus that modded one.
To each their own, but I'd take that grand and go buy a large scale R/C or something you'd actually enjoy. Twin Hammers perhaps?
Marcus
I think a bone stock wraith actually performed better on everything minus the ledge breakover versus that modded one.
To each their own, but I'd take that grand and go buy a large scale R/C or something you'd actually enjoy. Twin Hammers perhaps?
Marcus
binaryterror
I wanna be Dave
But Dirk approves, so its a #1 must buy. :lmao:
twissted
I joined the Band!
All you guys bashing on this design, You suck. I don't own a wraith as of yet. But this guy came up with something different and it works. Maybe not to your under standing or to your wallet size but it's innovative and it's fun to watch. You come up with something on your own and show the world and lets see how it stands up. If you can't praise this guy for his thinking and his work you really shouldn't post anything. I say buy it and you may improve on it and learn something in the process. If it's to expensive then say so. But to knock it because of that. You should be ashamed!
P.S. this isn't the first time I have seen this kind of bashing on innovative thinking. It really pisses me off!!!
P.S. this isn't the first time I have seen this kind of bashing on innovative thinking. It really pisses me off!!!
monkeyracer
I wanna be Dave
Why are you trolling around digging up threads from the grave?
Szczerba
I wanna be Dave
Simmer down. This is the internet. No one ever says anything good. Plus that suspension isn't practical for doing anything but sitting on a shelf or creating flexing GIF to post on the internet.
twissted
I joined the Band!
No I was on you tube and seen the video. Then google it and ended here.
Szczerba
I wanna be Dave
Word. I've seen the videos too about 11 months ago.
If that suspension setup was that wicked poppin' fresh there would be tons of those setups on RCC. Just saying.
monkeyracer
I wanna be Dave
OK, here's the run down.
The reason this is bashed is because it causes some negative performance effects:
Raises COG - Not good for high speed, no good for crawling either...
Allows for way too much droop/articulation - Get a tire stuck in a hole, or take a high speed corner with this thing and see how much spaghetti you end up with. Floppy mess as has been mentioned before.
Reduces spring rate - makes you use much stronger springs to compensate, and you lose some finesse and control-ability.
Also, beyond that, this should not take anyone 12 hours to install. Really. I mean anyone. My dead grandmother could get this done with her rigormortis-arthritic hands, and no mechanical skill in about 7 hours tops. (She wouldn't anyway, besides the whole grave thing, where this thread belongs, but because even her no-crawler knowledge could see this is a bad set-up.)
The guy was walking the line of vendor pimping. That's just not cool beans around here.
Even if someone did this with spare parts (so that the dumb price was taken out of the equation) the mod has more cons than pros.
I could probably take a video of some stupid modification and make it look like it was the best thing ever. As Shane says though, if it were a good mod, you would have seen a ton of them around here. Look at his recent wraith vids, there's nothing about this suspension design. Wouldn't you think if he has some secret combination to the suspension, he would use it on his own rigs?
Just watched the "pushing the limits" video again... if at first you don't succeed, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, and then try, try, try, try, again... Even with sedonas and rovers they couldn't get up an easy ledge. Looks like a real performer to me.
The reason this is bashed is because it causes some negative performance effects:
Raises COG - Not good for high speed, no good for crawling either...
Allows for way too much droop/articulation - Get a tire stuck in a hole, or take a high speed corner with this thing and see how much spaghetti you end up with. Floppy mess as has been mentioned before.
Reduces spring rate - makes you use much stronger springs to compensate, and you lose some finesse and control-ability.
Also, beyond that, this should not take anyone 12 hours to install. Really. I mean anyone. My dead grandmother could get this done with her rigormortis-arthritic hands, and no mechanical skill in about 7 hours tops. (She wouldn't anyway, besides the whole grave thing, where this thread belongs, but because even her no-crawler knowledge could see this is a bad set-up.)
The guy was walking the line of vendor pimping. That's just not cool beans around here.
Even if someone did this with spare parts (so that the dumb price was taken out of the equation) the mod has more cons than pros.
I could probably take a video of some stupid modification and make it look like it was the best thing ever. As Shane says though, if it were a good mod, you would have seen a ton of them around here. Look at his recent wraith vids, there's nothing about this suspension design. Wouldn't you think if he has some secret combination to the suspension, he would use it on his own rigs?
Just watched the "pushing the limits" video again... if at first you don't succeed, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, and then try, try, try, try, again... Even with sedonas and rovers they couldn't get up an easy ledge. Looks like a real performer to me.
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the DMG
RCC Addict
snorrrrrrrrrr !
wake when there something new here :roll:
this thread needs to like be moved page 50,
then it may not keep reappearing !!
totally worthless !
wake when there something new here :roll:
this thread needs to like be moved page 50,
then it may not keep reappearing !!
totally worthless !
I'm only kinda half as only partially following Harley's builds when ibeun into them on YouTube.
Harley seems to be an awesome guy buff said
As far as this shoe horned attempt at a pay check. Steer clear
You find better crawling info in the helicopter forumns
Harley seems to be an awesome guy buff said
As far as this shoe horned attempt at a pay check. Steer clear
You find better crawling info in the helicopter forumns
I laughed when this thread was created, and I'm laughing again now.
Calderwood
I wanna be Dave
chattinfarms
Quarry Creeper
Good god!!!!! I would def. not waste a grand to get a monster truck plus the cog. Good lord.
MAVERICKJK
Pebble Pounder
The problematic higher COG is somewhat obvious as demonstrating the 'extreme' flex in one direction he is 'pinching' the axle to the cage.
but...
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WHITE-TRASH
I wanna be Dave
That is one over priced and extremely over complicated answer to a simple problem that really didn't exist in the first place. :lol:
Whats the fix for wraith handling and stability? Running thicker fluid in the shocks and putting droop limiters in them to lower the center of gravity, raising the upper shock mount up to lower the rig, flipping the lower mounts on the axle to lower it even more and if that isn't enough slap some sway bars on there. Boom, now it's done and you're only out about $50.
Now go drop the other $1040 leftover from not doing this ****tarded 4th grader designed turd bucket "suspension" on hookers and coke and consider it a better investment than what could have been.
Whats the fix for wraith handling and stability? Running thicker fluid in the shocks and putting droop limiters in them to lower the center of gravity, raising the upper shock mount up to lower the rig, flipping the lower mounts on the axle to lower it even more and if that isn't enough slap some sway bars on there. Boom, now it's done and you're only out about $50.
Now go drop the other $1040 leftover from not doing this ****tarded 4th grader designed turd bucket "suspension" on hookers and coke and consider it a better investment than what could have been.
