about esc's, motors and drag brake

[djoefromreal]

I have built a Dingo kit, in which i'm currently running ezrun 60a+17.5t, which i had on the shelf. Slow driving is good to my liking after puzzling a little with esc settings with the programcard, but i would like to be able to stand still on the steep.

What i (think to) know, after research:

-You cannot compare highturn brushed-performance to a brushless motor at slow speeds
-at slow speeds brushless will always cog, albeit very little
-a drag brake on your esc will not work the same on a brushless motor as it does on a brushed motor
-the FX-R and BR-XL both have an excellenet drag brake for brushed motors, but they only take brushed
-Castle esc's have a good drag brake for brushed, and can also take brushless (only one out of these 3 which i can get fairly cheap over here)

What i am still wondering, after doing research:

-for simple backyard trialing, some climbing en mudding, would i need the br-xl or would a sidewinder v2 also be to my liking? perticularly the drag brake
-will a better motor (stronger magnet?) on my current ezrun 60a esc give me a better drag brake?
-is the castle drag brake also that good for brushless motors?
-How good is the br-xl drag brake with cheap brushed motors (got some lying around)


I have searched a lot for video's of caste sv2's applying drag brake, but it's not yet clear to me how it holds. i read good and bad things about 'm.

I know reply's will be "don't be cheap, just buy holmes", which i will propably do in time, but for now it's still a project on a budget. But that does not cut on the joy!


Thanks in advance for your opinions, and do correct me where i am wrong"thumbsup"


....I just saw the brxl is back on stock:evil:

 

[avanord]

On a budget I would choose the axial ae2 speed control with a brushed motor of your choice. You can buy them used in the classifieds section for around $50 and their drag brake can be changed with a castle link. I really like my ae2 for the money it works well.

 

[ProjektONE]

for 50 more you have get a Holmes Hobbies TorqueMaster!

 

[Solitaire]

Yes, the BRXL is a quality ESC, for sure, but in a SCX the AE-2 works just fine. The drag brake doesn't seem as strong as the HH, but I think that has more to do with the lighter weight motor.

 

[Titus]

The drag break can be adjusted without the cable, saw a thread on a similar topic and there was a post with instructions to program it without the cable, referring to the AE-2 that is.

But make no mistake, the BR-XL is a fine piece of kit. You pay for what you get. However value for money, the AE-2 is still pretty good.

Cheers
T

 

[djoefromreal]

Okay, thank you for the suggestions, i will look into the ae-2! is it true that this is actually a re-badged sidewinder?

another question:
If you maintain it properly, what is the lifespan of a good brushed motor in an scx10? Of course it will depend on the way of using it, but i´m a guy who enjoys maintenance just as much as driving, and i (usually) don´t rape my gear
I have only used throw away brushed motors in the past, silvercans mostly, but have no experience with quality (handwound) motors.

and one more question...which is the closest brushless (sensored) alternative to a brushed drag brake?

 

[Titus]

Yup, the AE-2 is basically a dumbed down version of the sidewinder.

As for the lifespan of a decent brushed motor, I would say a good couple years. The fully serviceable ones, are great as you can replaces brushes, bearings etc. will need a com cut over time, but the better ones tend to last a lot longer. I'm no expert on them, but that is just a bit of what I know and thinking logically about it.

I'm sure the motor gurus on here could shed some more light on that.

I can't comment on the brushless drag brake tho, not really planning on running brushless so haven't done the research on it.

Cheers
T