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fixing torqe twist in a venom crawler

BillV

Rock Stacker
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To omit the torque twist in your venom crawler this is what I tried and it worked GREAT. First install ( ven8370b ) rear link spacer at the location showed when using the stage 2 kit. Adjust the spacer to a 45 deg angle facing the front of rear and install the shock on this. This will omit the twist after adjusting the shock springs. It will also lower the truck ½ inch and with a softer spring get more twist where you want it. I’m still testing it and will follow up with photos and test results later. So far it is a low cost fix to a problem all owners of the venom rock crawler have. (The parts from venom were less than 10.00 shipped) "thumbsup"
 
twist

I have tested my upgrade and so far found it WORKS Im still testing it and I will let everyone know how well it works. If you like spending a lot of money on upgrades go ahead. This upgrade after testing may prove to work if it does it will be a cheap fix. It may not work on all rigs dep on the setup but on the crawler I,m testing so far so good.:lmao:
 
well the bad part is, is im running a complet stock creeper with all of those upgrades that rmdw said to do and it only cost me about 40-50$ (mostly the tire cost) and my rig is running fine ever sence then it was all just testing and dialinf in the shocks.
 
I have tested my upgrade and so far found it WORKS Im still testing it and I will let everyone know how well it works. If you like spending a lot of money on upgrades go ahead. This upgrade after testing may prove to work if it does it will be a cheap fix. It may not work on all rigs dep on the setup but on the crawler I,m testing so far so good.:lmao:

Im curious to see the pics because Im seeing you using a Plastic Single Shear Tab for the shock right,,,with one screw securing the tab to the axle?
 
testing

your right' this is only to test the angle and to alow you to change it if ness. As it is working now it holds ok you will need to watch it and tighten if ness. But this is still in testing. I will have a proper plate made from alum after the testing is comp.
This only a idea and I wanted to test it on my crawler and I found IT WORKED I know it needs more testing and just using that part you wil have some trouble keeping it tight but you will be able to see what i saw when i installed it on my crawle8)r. Im only trying to help other venom crawler owners to omit that afull twist we all have.
 
your right' this is only to test the angle and to alow you to change it if ness. As it is working now it holds ok you will need to watch it and tighten if ness. But this is still in testing. I will have a proper plate made from alum after the testing is comp.
This only a idea and I wanted to test it on my crawler and I found IT WORKED I know it needs more testing and just using that part you wil have some trouble keeping it tight but you will be able to see what i saw when i installed it on my crawle8)r. Im only trying to help other venom crawler owners to omit that afull twist we all have.

Well a couple of things arise in this idea to my way of thinking...shocks dont cause or control TT....period. Link geometry does. Changing the applied pressure angle of the shocks will reduce the affects of TT but usually at the cost of articulation reaction speed. I run my shocks really soft and have nearly ZERO TT at almost any approach or departure angle. I do suffer pretty pronounced TT while reversing up hill or off camber due to the way I run my front upper links.
 
twist

your right about shock angle, If you are using the stage 2 kit it's almost imposable to not have tt without lossing articulation This is due to the new angle of the shocks, shocks can't work if thay can't compres when thay need to. changing the angle to a more horazontal stance will omit shock travel and lessen the efectiveness of the shocks to tt. The idea i am testing moves the angle out and bring back some of the ability to compress when tt is there. It also gives you back a softer spring and still lower the tt. You may find you might need to start with fact shock springs and adj as needed, or add a stiffer set on the rear only. So far im using fact springs in front and a set of silver springs on the rear and with a litle adj it works the nuts. I have found this setup works for me and my crawler has O tt and lots of articulation. try it maby it will work for you, As I said earler all I want to do is try to help others with TT on your crawlers for little cost. ;-) ( have found batt strap brackets work well and using 2 you can angle one to support the one holding the shock. HOPE THIS HELPS
 
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BillV, do you have any pictures of your setup? Are you referring to the CKRC Stage II kit? Thanks.
 
Waiting to see pictures , in the building stages of my creeper now!

I want to get some of the known "kinks" worked out before it hits the rocks!
 
BTW , I've read the tips/tricks just curious to see what he is working with.

Rmd's fix looks to be pretty simple/stright forward.
 
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