Help me Build a Kick Butt COMP 2.2 AX10, Please Advise

[patrick21x]

Hey Guys, I just finished Building my First Crawler. It's an AX10. Took it out today and i am Hooked I did alot of reading on this forum before building it and it has helped very much. Well now Im ready to turn it into a full compitition rig. I do not know what route to take so I would like some input on what I should order up.

Heres what I Have now to start with.
AX10
Mamba Max
Integy 55T
5000 MAH LIPO
ACE 1313 Servo
(2) Airtronics Rock Crusher Servos
M11 Control
Spectrum 3ch Reciever

What do I want to Have?
I want a full on compition rig that I can use in the 2.2 class. I want the best of everything (i dont know what that would be though) so I need your help.
I have been looking at the CKRC stage 2 kit, the hustler 2.2 chassis and such. I like the way the Hustler looks but is it going to be the best to have the ability to win ? (if i learn to drive it of coarse?

Should I go with a Tuber and get the Hustler, or should i just tune the Stock AX10 ?

What about the RC4WD R2 tranny w/ disconect? Do I want the DIG ?

Upgraded Shocks, Which ones ?

What parts or hop up Parts should I get and from where?

Relace Stock Tires?
What Foams?
Which Bead Locks?

Should I keep my LiPo or go with saddle packs over front axles. If saddle packs which Batteries should I get 6cell- 8cell , 1500Mah- 3000 Mah, and where from

Bacically,
What would you order up if you could put this A10 together any way you wanted to , and create a dominating sweet rig.
If you have a sweet idea then please let me know. What all i would need to complete this Project and where i could order everything from?

I know I just asked a ton of questions, sorry Any and all help in coming up with a complete package would be greatly appreciated.

Once i get enough input or a nice set of plans, I will order everything up and then do a Live Build of this project.

Ill title the thread........
Converting stock AX10 into a DOMINATING RIG... or something like that

Look forward to some input. Thanks, Patrick

 

[yotachump]

why (2) Airtronics Rock Crusher Servos? 4WS isn't comp legal.

 

[Kamikaze]

Here is everything you could ever need to know, all in one place. http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=73

 

[THnCS]

From the looks of it you have a great start. I started the same way, just converted my ax10 to a SW3 chassis. I would definately get a different chassis, the sw3 gives more adjustability and just is smoother than the stock chassis. Get some traxxas big bores, losi rock claws, I went with the Kreepy mem foams and are awesome, new chassis(sw3,gc-1, etc..) Dig is real nice if you have real tight courses. I just made one and it works great. That is my set up. Before the SW3 chassis I had the above mods with stock chassis and competed just fine. Once I get a chance to dial in the SW3, should be even better. The only thing other I would suggest is to get either the RCP or RC4wd alum axle c's, steering hubs and straight axles. If you haven't you will break the plastic ones. I went through a whole set of them before i got the aluminum ones. It will all come down to how you drive, we have a few that have stock ax10's and have done minor adjustments and still compete very well. Hope this helps and welcome to the addiction!!!

 

[yotachump]

Here is everything you could ever need to know, all in one place. http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=73

yep,Kamikaze is right:lol:, you just need to Read,Read,Read, and experiment.

 

[pup]

Dig is a must in my opinion. You can get the R2D or build a driveline disconnect. The R2D is nice but $$$. driveline disco is Free

Tires, The stock rock lizards suck in comparison to a Rock Claw or Moab

I would keep the Lipo but maybe move it to your rear axle plate. or anywhere posible to get it lower.

 

[patrick21x]

yep,Kamikaze is right:lol:, you just need to Read,Read,Read, and experiment.

I can appreciate this, But if i can have a few much more exsperianced guys give their input. Then I can skip all the experimenting and start fresh with something that is proven to work and just tweak alittle from there. Id rather build and buy once than to go through alot of trial and error. I have found that that the fastest way to success is to surround yourself with successful people. So for all you guys that got something positive to add, Please chip in. Thanks, Patrick

 

[caddyshack]

i would go with 2/3 A's mounted over the front axil

 

[grapegoat]

my ideal comp ax10.

4-link mounts
aluminum C's and knuckles up front
straight axle adapters out back
heavy duty R&P's
Bent lower links
r2d tranny and servo mount
jato shafts
softer axial springs
hitec 5955 servo
axle mounted batt
losi claws on axial BL's
kreepy foams and lead strips

probably more that im forgetting. Man I would hate to tally up the bill for that setup. :roll:

 

[TWISTER]

Yeah, that lipo is too friggin huge! :shock:
I'd stick with lipo, but maybe one in the 1300mAh range.

 

[mrpink]

I can appreciate this, But if i can have a few much more exsperianced guys give their input. Then I can skip all the experimenting and start fresh with something that is proven to work and just tweak alittle from there. Id rather build and buy once than to go through alot of trial and error. I have found that that the fastest way to success is to surround yourself with successful people. So for all you guys that got something positive to add, Please chip in. Thanks, Patrick

So if I stood in a crowd of doctors, I would be a doctor too?

kamikaze had the most positive thing to add and that was read up, educate yourself. There is no one perfect setup. It all depends on driving style and skill, terrain, and general use. Trial and error is the only way.

The fastest way to success is to educate yourself."thumbsup"

don't bash people who are trying to help you... not a good way to start out on this forum.

p!nK

 

[Les Crawl]

Well I haven't been on this forum long, but, take this for what's it worth, in your post above you said you did alot of reading and built your "rig", (it looks mostly stock to me) The want of only experienced people to reply to your post is NOT going to get you what you want, you will have to read and read some more, I'm on my fourth build now (Hustler super) and have done it entirely without asking one question. How, may you ask? By reading the forums here, that's what they are for; information. You did get some advice from experienced people here and you degraded them by saying they weren't qualified to reply to your post. If you want a "dominating setup" you'll only get there by building, tear it down, building, tear it down, break it, build it again.......compete, break it, uprade, modify, experiment, compete some more, and READ...get my drift.
I haven't competed, don't know if I ever will, but, I do enjoy and love building and have bought more than once for upgrades, I may not have experience, but, I do have passion for the hobby and follow the advice of whomever has something to give to the plate. Ahh,the smell of burnt wires.
I wish you well and hope you have great success.... when that happens........... people will listen to you and follow what has worked for you. :lol:
Yes, go with Lipo, you're probably getting alot of rollover with that thing on top.
The X-Trail is a good conversion, I tried the rockbull chassis and it was still top heavy, this setup (X-Trail) with full droop has worked well for me
The vendors sites are listed on here:
RC4WD
The Crawler Store
JPCustomrcs
RCP
Holmes Hobbies
CKRCCrawlers
CheapBatteryPacks, just to name a few. Check out their sites and you will see what is available for upgrades. Good Luck! "thumbsup"

 

[rbgerrish]

Read the ----'d answers below:
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Hey Guys, I just finished Building my First Crawler. It's an AX10. Took it out today and i am Hooked I did alot of reading on this forum before building it and it has helped very much. Well now Im ready to turn it into a full compitition rig. I do not know what route to take so I would like some input on what I should order up.

Heres what I Have now to start with.
AX10
Mamba Max
Integy 55T
5000 MAH LIPO
ACE 1313 Servo
(2) Airtronics Rock Crusher Servos
M11 Control
Spectrum 3ch Reciever


What do I want to Have?
I want a full on compition rig that I can use in the 2.2 class. I want the best of everything (i dont know what that would be though) so I need your help.
I have been looking at the CKRC stage 2 kit, the hustler 2.2 chassis and such. I like the way the Hustler looks but is it going to be the best to have the ability to win ? (if i learn to drive it of coarse?

----The Stage 2 kit would be a nice upgrade. A hustler 2.2 would work well too, but honestly I havent been super impressed watching the 2.2 versions compete.

Should I go with a Tuber and get the Hustler, or should i just tune the Stock AX10 ?

----Stick with the stock Ax10, but do the following:

---- Put 3/4" fuel tubing inside the shocks as limiters. Run 1000 weight diff oil all the way around, and softer springs in the front. Get the upgraded servo plate, and use a little battery pack next to it up front. Put lead wrap weight or airsoft BB's in the front tires, and depending on what tire you run, you might want some cut foams in the front and wider cut foams in the rear. Bent links are nice. There are many other comp tweaks for scorpions- go to the ax10 section and read up.

What about the RC4WD R2 tranny w/ disconect? Do I want the DIG ?

----Yes, if you are serious about competition, you'll want dig.


Upgraded Shocks, Which ones ?

----You could either limit the ax10 shocks, or eliminate them and go with some Traxxas XXL big bores. That'll make your ride height awesome.

What parts or hop up Parts should I get and from where?

----Aluminum knuckles, C's, lockouts, straightaxles, HBZ carbon fiber set, etc.... All from many of the vendors in the vendors section, or your LHS if they are cool at all.

Relace Stock Tires?

----Yes

What Foams?

----Cut the foams that come with whichever tires you buy.

Which Bead Locks?

----Stock Axials are fine, unless you have chash, then I'd get the new MSD aluminum beadlocks.</b>

Should I keep my LiPo or go with saddle packs over front axles. If saddle packs which Batteries should I get 6cell- 8cell , 1500Mah- 3000 Mah, and where from

----You'll want some kind of battery on the front axle. Go with a little 3 cell Lipo.</b>

Bacically,
What would you order up if you could put this A10 together any way you wanted to , and create a dominating sweet rig.
If you have a sweet idea then please let me know. What all i would need to complete this Project and where i could order everything from?

----Everything can be ordered from the vendors.

I know I just asked a ton of questions, sorry Any and all help in coming up with a complete package would be greatly appreciated.

Once i get enough input or a nice set of plans, I will order everything up and then do a Live Build of this project.

Ill title the thread........
Converting stout stock AX10 into a DOMINATING RIG... or something like that

----The key to total domination is less about truck, and more about driving ability. Practice...

 

[patrick21x]

mrpink, Kamikaze, Les Crawl

Sorry the words came out wrong, I wasnt saying that the replys were from someone un exsperianced, I was just asking for more input. In no way was I trying to bash someone. Sorry for it sounding that way.

After reading some of your posts, I now know your right. The only way i am going to really have a dominating rig is through trial and error and alot more exsperiance.

Sorry if I came across wrong, I was just real excited and wanted a kick but rig like now. I was hoping to hear about an awsome setup that was going to go together quick. I now know that I will have to figure it out through alot of testing. I have allready gotten some good advise from all of you and I will be starting the rebuild soon. Thanks for all your time, and responces. If you got anymore ideas plese let me know, I will put the info to good use .

Thanks, Patrick

 

[Kamikaze]

my ideal comp ax10.

4-link mounts
aluminum C's and knuckles up front
straight axle adapters out back
heavy duty R&P's
Bent lower links
r2d tranny and servo mount
jato shafts
softer axial springs
hitec 5955 servo
axle mounted batt
losi claws on axial BL's
kreepy foams and lead strips

probably more that im forgetting. Man I would hate to tally up the bill for that setup. :roll:

That sound familiar......

 

[grapegoat]

That sound familiar......

lucky bastard! :lol:. Seriously though, That rig is awesome Kam. Your livin my dream man. Im a starving student so Its quite out of my price range. :-(

 

[patrick21x]

Well Guys, Thanks for all the input amd PM's
Thanks to your help, I put together a list and have ordered the following . Thanks for listing all the vendors for me also, It really helped


From Bender Customs
SW3 Silver frame Chassis with exstended skidplate (Eisier to mount the R2 Tranny or the Axial) Brad is a super cool guy, he even went to His Local Hobby shop to get the Jato links to ship out with the Chassis. Way Cool of him.

From RCP Crawlers
I got the Aluminu Axle C's, High Clearence Knuckles, Losi Rock Claws, Kreepy Pink Narrow for front, Kreepy Red Wide for rear. Super soft Axial Springs and A HPI Bug Body

From RC4WD
I got the Black R2 w/ Disconect and the Staight Axle Lock Out and Stainless solid axles

From Local Hobby Shop
Went with the Axial Front Battery/Servo mount . 1250 Mah 3Cell Lipo to mount over Axle. Axial Bent Links and Misc Hardware to complete the conversion.

From MSD
2.2 Hot Shot Aluminum Bead Locks, ( Awsome set of Wheels)


Its Like waiting for Christmas to come, I cant wait to get all these parts here so I can start rebuilding and end up with what I hope will be a pretty capable rig,

Ill post some pics once I get it all together. Along with the changes I noticed from the mods and Conversion. Thaks again for everyones input and recomendations.