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Ideas for Comp Series

Being the guy that held the first CORCC comp and ran all of them for a few years until it got to be too much for me, here are some things I would offer up from my past experiences.

1. We are a USRCCA recognized club, which means we have agreed to run the USRCCA rules.

2. The USRCCA does not have an amateur "run what you brung" class. They have 1.9, 2.2 sportsman, 2.2 comp, and super.

3. Days to run comps take a long time, the only way to shorten that is to have less competitors, and we don't want that, so count on the days being long. Some simple math I have com up with in running large events that works well is take your total number of competitors, and multiply that by your course time limit plus 1 minute. So lets say a normal Colorado comp has 18 1.9 drivers, 47 2.2 drivers, and 15 super drivers, that is a total of 80 drivers, running 4 minute courses will take us 400 minutes, or 6.66 hours. Now add to that setup time, lunch break, and any other down time for any reason. That 400 minutes is based on rigs running on course non stop. So we easily end up with 9-10 hour days which in the winter is from sun up to sundown.

4. Making judging mandatory does not work. I know the rules inside out, I have been doing this longer than most anyone, yet I am a horrible judge. My slight bit of ADD does not allow me to focus at all.

5. The same thing goes for course designing, some people can drive the wheels off of their crawlers, but they cannot design a course that plays out well with competitors to save their lives.

6. Having the $5 buy in each day really made the comps more exciting for everyone, and like it's been mentioned in here already it is nice for those guys to take home a little gas money at the end of the day, and it makes the day feel a little more rewarding.

7. Running one of these events is a ton of work, we all know that, however many of the "newer guys" don't realize that, and they seem to want their comps just like they got their crawlers. They bought their crawlers, took them home opened the boxes and started crawling. Now they want to be able to show up to a comp, have everything all setup and waiting for them, walk right up run the courses in an hour or less then head home and have the scores waiting for them on the computer when they get home. That just isn't going to happen with a club this size. If you want things to move along faster there are only a couple of things you can do: get off your ass and help out, and have your rig ready to go at the starting line of a course when the judge is running the guy in front of you. These events are going to last all day, that is just the way it is, so show up early, pack a lunch, and be prepared to do work.


Hoppa, not picking on you, your post just was an easy one to quote that had the concerns that I wanted to address.



Wow, not sure what to say. A group of guys that have been crawling for more than 6 years together at locations all over the state is no more of a club than a group of guys that piled up some rock in a parking lot.




I'll agree with you, but if you think about it, our winter series typically ends in June. In July we have Rocas, we take August and September off to prep for Nationals, and our series begins again in October.




I am working on this.



I'll agree with you on that, having a computer at the site to enter the scores as they roll in really helps. Having to go home at the end of the day and then manually go through the sheets sucks.

I am hoping to be at the events with the RCC van and I'd be willing to help whoever our scoring guy is enter the scores. The van gives us a nice desk and plenty of light to do that.



2 judges per course would be awesome, however until people start stepping up it's hard to find 1 judge per course.
Well said kimosabe! I like the Go Big or Go Home and change your diaper class. Do we really need to create a new government to have fun. KISS me baby. camping cook-out / trophies/ money for nats/ lap-dance, 1 but not all, organizers deserve some of it. $5 or not, either way is ok. Same judge or judges all day. Volunteers rock, don't be scared.

Hope to see ya wouldn't want to be ya!
 
STEWIE LIVES!!! I knew it was just a matter of time. Hope to see you at the comps again, hasn't been the same without you!!
 
Wow sounds like all the competion based stuff I have ever been involved with. Bunch of guys who don't want to do any thing about stuff except bitch. Thanks guy I now remeber why I quit coming to comps because it became to much of a bitch fest. Man if you look around there isn't very many og colorado people around any more I wounder why?

If I am going to go some were and listen to people bitch I might as well go to work. You know I was there in the beginning to and loved setting coarses and being a marshal. But those days are gone people made this in to some thing to get worked up about. Shit Jason and I used to get payed to go compete in 1:1 and never got as worked up over stuff as some of you do at these rc comps And we actually had some thing to loose. As a matter of fact My bushiness has spent over 150,000 dollars in the past 9 years competing in 1:1 and i have never bitched and moaned as much as I see people at these comps.
 
Wow sounds like all the competion based stuff I have ever been involved with. Bunch of guys who don't want to do any thing about stuff except bitch. Thanks guy I now remeber why I quit coming to comps because it became to much of a bitch fest. Man if you look around there isn't very many og colorado people around any more I wounder why?

QFT


Well said brother... well said!
 
Wow sounds like all the competion based stuff I have ever been involved with. Bunch of guys who don't want to do any thing about stuff except bitch. Thanks guy I now remeber why I quit coming to comps because it became to much of a bitch fest. Man if you look around there isn't very many og colorado people around any more I wounder why?

If I am going to go some were and listen to people bitch I might as well go to work. You know I was there in the beginning to and loved setting coarses and being a marshal. But those days are gone people made this in to some thing to get worked up about. Shit Jason and I used to get payed to go compete in 1:1 and never got as worked up over stuff as some of you do at these rc comps And we actually had some thing to loose. As a matter of fact My bushiness has spent over 150,000 dollars in the past 9 years competing in 1:1 and i have never bitched and moaned as much as I see people at these comps.
Besides the thing between Kris and TY, i see this post as the only one really "bitching" "thumbsup"
 
yea you got me I am the bitcher. I am the one who goes around talking shit to evrey one or behind there backs and crying how things should be run better and I can do a better job at some thing then some one else.
I was just saying this hole thing all the crying and shit talking that goes on all the time is why I don't compete no more and you guys just reminded me of that. I have seen this club grow since the start(day one same as RCC seen it before any one else had the chance to see it before it was even on line) In case you didn't know I was there in the begining and we had some fun years and that is why I come to see my friends at comps and don't give a shit about competeing because cry babys take the fun out of it."thumbsup""thumbsup"
 
Yes we did have fun!Two classes, 2.2 and supers no sponsors no money no pros no beginners everybody was equal! Good laughs w/everybody when rigs broke laugh it off fix it if possible, continue running and take your score. The good times of tlt`s txt`s and clods.
 
I have only been crawling ( competitively ) for just about a year now. The ONLY reason I started going to comps is because RCH told us ( you know who you are ) that if we got enough people together for a sporty class they would let us run it. Knowing that I would be competing with people that had skills and equipment that were similar to mine is what made it fun. If I would have had to jump into the pro class with both feet I am not sure I would have lasted more then a couple of comps. Something about having your azz handed to you by a 9 year old driving a berg kind of takes the fun out of it. :mrgreen:

Having only shaftys with no DIG in the beginner/ sportsman / novice class keeps the playing field equal and makes it more appealing to newcomers.

Note: Since I was in the top three for the HTW summer series, I will be running PRO from here on out .... :twisted: :cry: :twisted:

Speaking as a complete outsider here, I agree with Jason. Since this is a USRCCA recognized club, comps should be run with USRCCA rules and guidelines. ALL OF THEM. That way there is no confusion at bigger events. These rules and regulations have been put into place to unify the way events are held and to make sure everyone is playing by the same rules.

Thank you for the opportunity to give my two cents.
 
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